Thread regarding Ford layoffs

The problem is that these are the people making the layoff decisions and they will never get rid of themselves. They will only cut GSRs/agency/contract employees making the LL6's left miserable until they quit or until the system collapses. Shuffling tasks that people who already make the least do to India does not help the company succeed in the long run.

"Until Ford eliminates all the LL3 and all the LL5 and the entire swath of employees on the Friends and Family Plan the company will not prosper and continue it’s death spiral."

I was a Ford agency/contract employee (based in Dearborn) until COB last Friday.

Along with at least 200 other agency people, I got the call telling me it was my last day.

Seems that Ford Blue will be spun off to obtain cash needed to keep the “all-eggs-in-one basket” automaker going. The layoffs will be small incremental ones so as to not deter future prospective buyers.

You could probably look at employees who have not logged on to VPN over the last 2 years and let them go too. A few years back the Detroit School system made employees show up to get their checks...Some folks did not show up and guess what...they stopped paying them.

Hau just announced 350 Ford/ 250 contract by end of this week.

Ford does have way too many employees. Ford can eliminate 35,000 salary and hourly employees and the company can operate as usual. Here are my recommendation to Ford none-value added employees.
Those who are sitting at home, calling into meeting, and has no direct involvement with vehicle parts, components, powertrain, or vehicle build can be cut immediately.
Those who do not have specific responsibility, which Ford does have a lot, can be cut immediately.
PS/Agency without any influence or directly working on the parts can be cut immediately.
Engineers or management who are only working on PowerPoint presentations and Excel spreadsheet can be cut immediately.
Managers with less than 10 direct reports can be cut and consolidate.
Those who are over 55 years of age and have at least 20 years with the company should be offer the buyout package to leave the company.
Good Luck Everyone. Welcome to 2022 SRD.

Until Ford eliminates all the LL3 and all the LL5 and the entire swath of employees on the Friends and Family Plan the company will not prosper and continue it’s death spiral.

Since we all know the whole purpose of Ford leadership is to support and continually grow the above, nothing will change. What has changed is the ability and willingness of talented employees to quickly leave Ford (if they had a temporary lapse in judgement when they agreed to work at Ford).

There is bad news and good news.

The bad news is that headcount reductions this year are a foregone conclusion. Chris' cousin has stated publicly that we have too many people. Doug Field has said the same thing about the departments under him. So the reality is that there will be layoffs at some point.

They will not be able to target these to retirement eligible folks. Not saying that there won't be plenty of those folks laid off, but for every pension eligible head cut, there will be at least 1 non-pension eligible resource let go too. They have to try to hide the pension and age target mistake of 2019 since they just settled those lawsuits.

The good news? It will be smaller than originally thought. Why, because Ford's turnover is already trending towards 25%. Less backfilling, closing of open positions, retirements, etc will end up making up the bulk of the reductions. I, like a previous poster, have already witnessed several people who have put in their notices following bonuses. I am sure the pittance of a merit increase contributed, but most of these folks had one foot out of the door already and just wanted their bonus before signing off.

So the answer is yes, but they won't have to do as many due to the high rate of attrition. In fact, I predict an OH $HIT moment when management will panic that they cannot compete due to the hemorrhaging of talent and will begin a hiring spree. But that won't happen until late 3rd quarter or 4th quarter. RIght now they are just whining about their labor costs.

Merit raises may have been a catalyst for some to leave. Have heard of 3 people who gave their 2 weeks notice just this week. They all cited meaningless work, incompetent co-workers and a complete loss of trust in management as reasons for leaving. This is not the same company it was even 3 years ago.

Headcount reduction already started for Ford Blue operation. Transmission departments are reducing headcount as we speak. All agency employees that are still around will be gone by end of March. From a Division of 1000+ employees, the target is 250 heads to be gone. Only GSR's no LL6 or LL5 to be affected. they have preferential treatment for relocation.

@toxu+1dLr7caM yes, cuts are coming in 2022.
Those who have a pension and those with higher than average pay are layoff targets. Additional layoff targets are those whose jobs were shifted to India, or those who management want to replace with one of their displaced favorites. Per senior leadership and HR presentations roughly 70% of North American and European white collar jobs are moving to Ford of India.
The days of weeding out the low performers has gone. Everyone is equivalent per BCG and HR.
Prepare yourself and your family.

The rumblings have begun. Lots of leadership discussions about cuts coming in 2022. This is the new way of doing business at Ford. Every 2-4 years start cutting jobs in an effort to move out tenured folks. Then hire a bunch of youngsters in between, weed out the poor performers, let the high performers gain experience. Then cut older folks again when you can. Look at who was targeted a couple of years ago, people that were longtime employees, close to retirement age, and pension eligible. If you have 18 years or more, pre 2004, I'd brace yourself.

High Tech Red Neck,

lol. That is pretty good. I am doing the same thing. I am PS grunt # 087659953, still active as of 21:34 11/11/21. BTW, who could give you a down vote?

FYI: PD Purchased Services grunt checking in... Ford CDIS password still works as of 20:15 EST 11/11/21.

My opinion, and mine only, is that they are looking (and already have) to cut agency and purchased services this year before end of the year. I know because I work directly with a PS vendor, and the CEO (it's a small outfit) had been voicing concerns to me about his budget for support (that is the 'flexible part of most PS vendor's contracts) for two or three months, then he suddenly stopped about end of October. Come November 1st, this vendor brought aboard one extra resources when they had plans for three. I'm a GSR. so I had nothing to do with his budget, but I know he had talks with my L5 (yes, I was running a product team without a L6 for nearly three months, as he had been moved in a reshuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic) around this topic - so it was resolved and some money was saved and success declared in squeezing another supplier.

Therefore, I am thinking the cuts will not come until sometime until 1st or 2nd qtr 2022. If they were going to cut in the 4th qtr this year, they would have already been making plans because they have to account for it before the end of the year, and it takes time to process everything. Also they just let go somewhere between 700 to nearly 1,000 people with the VSSP that just wrapped up a couple of weeks ago (a long time former supervisor of mine took it and said farewell on 10/29), so they are booking those savings now, too.

While some at some level in the company may have been tempted to use the so called 15% non vaxed to save some dough, a few things have likely put a halt to that: (1) Fear of brain drain, (2) demographics - I have no proof, but a gut feeling is that most of the non-vaxed are over 50 and also may lean heavy in minorities, (3) the fear the mandate may be declared unconstitutional - which would instantly create a huge legality for the company, as there is not any statue of limitations for people filing lawsuits for actions found unconstitutional.....in other words, it could take a couple years for court cases to get a resolution, and the end result would mean bankruptcy for Ford, which menas no more class B Ford family stock.

No, I think Ford will do it the old fashioned legally sanctioned way of declaring of bunch of people no longer have jobs because the jobs are no longer needed, then just hire a bunch of fresh faced pimple kids in the 2nd qtr (gee, what a coincidence, just when college ends for most seniors!) that have no experience and pay them a 3rd less than the people they replaced. Rinse and repeat...

I heard a rumor. The Contract/PS are getting cut this week. The directs will get cut in mid December. Always ... Always, sc--w families over right before Christmas.

Then, right around late spring they will hire and hire, because nothing can get done on time, and suffer bad quality since the new hires have not been trained properly. Not to mention, the exhausted people left behind had to pick up the work form the people that got canned.

Duh please. Of course there will be layoffs and firings. Look at Fords quality and new product launch performance right now.
The only way to fix that is to reduce the size of the company workforce, significantly. Ford HR knows this.

Yes, they are banking on being able to layoff those that don’t comply with the vaccine.