Thread regarding Ford layoffs

As productivity is going down it's easy to see all the dead weight from the people who rationalize being at home optimum. This is followed by many moving up to their cottages, running their personal business...the list goes on.

Most are the older pension hold overs... they will suck the company dry until they're forced to go.

With all that said there will be "small portion" of them that are excellent, productive, intelligent... that will be and have been caught up in these transitions and are a great loss.

When the time comes for Ford to release people at home it will be easy with just an email....no need for security and outsourcing can be accomplished from anywhere on the globe!

@4ihc+1cxVGUcE Funny that Bullies justify their behavior by saying they are just knocking someone down a few pegs who deserved to be knocked down.

Practice kindness instead.

True story - there is an LL6 at Ford who is both a bully and a blowhard. One of his sports is making others look bad in meetings. A little of this fellow goes a very long way. He has been punched, slapped, kicked in the privates and spat upon in the office by coworkers when they had just had enough and he ignored all their warnings. He has had his office and vehicle vandalized many times. He has had frequent HR reprimands, yet he persists in his behaviors across the decades.

Getting your jollies from making someone look bad always backfires in the long run. You might think people are applauding your behavior, when in reality they have noted your uncharitable behavior and filed that info away for future reference. They might also be getting you behind your back, and you don’t even know it - yet.

Ouchie there 4mzg+1cxVGUcE. Sounds like you are one of the know-it-all bullies that got cut down to size a time or two. If you don't realize that Ford's fall is a direct result of bully types like that who on rare occasions finally get exposed, you are the problem.

"You certainly sound like one of the people I used to enjoy making look like an incompetent fool in physical meetings in front of upper management. ...nothing beats getting the know it all fools like you so mad that you wanted to take a swing at me in front of a crowd!!"

Thank you for your post. Your comments validate that we do indeed work with a few psychopaths. I am sorry that you no longer receive the satisfaction of cutting down your fellow co-workers in-person with our leadership spectating. I hope that you are able to find something at home that you can find just as rewarding and fulfilling. I pray that you do not have a significant other that has become the new target of your life's frustrations.

First, the return to work plan must be a group by group situation, which the top execs don't seem to be explicitly saying, because some groups are never going back to an office except with approval from an LL2 and their has to be a very good reason. My LL4 has said this publicly to his entire organization - and his boss, she works from home and has been since the pandemic started. The stated reason was that "we did so well during the 2020 lockdowns in terms of productivity not being missed - in fact it went way up, and the office was one of the wide open spaces places where if you wanted to book a room you couldn't because they were all reserved a year in advance - our management volunteered us to work at home permanently" That is bull cr-p, it is all about saving greenbacks.....Ford is jettisoning building leases as fast as possible all over Western/Eastern Wayne county. So I would expect to see more groups working from home permanently from now on, as it is too hard to pass up the savings & cash flow improvements by not having so many buildings full of people

Second, as someone else already wrote, I'm sure Michigan will implement nearly full or full lockdowns again in October timeframe for most if not all winter and spring - so then what? Ford is doing what a lot of companies are doing now - waiting it out to see what really happens...but at some point they will have to make a decision and the likely (and easiest decision) is to have most people work from home in the future.

@ plp most of your post is spot on. Just lose the attribution to old, white, male, republicans. Not all of us old white guys are the same - and office Ah0les come in all sorts of packages.

Most of the people who are really into returning to the office are
a) supervisor/manager whose skill set requires them to physically see the people the supervise/manage - you know the type - They slithered around the office building on an hourly cadence checking to see who was sitting in their chairs
b) individual whose sole contributions are socializing (aka gossiping, backstabbing, credit stealing, stomping on the necks of their coworkers to get ahead)
c) those with unhappy home life (smaller contingent)
d) those who require 24x7 in person interactions (for example narcissists who need constant adulation)

@plp+1cxVGUcE :
I actually agreed and enjoyed your post until your uneducated rant on vax and politics. You certainly sound like one of the people I used to enjoy making look like an incompetent fool in physical meetings in front of upper management. Its still fun with webex, but nothing beats getting the know it all fools like you so mad that you wanted to take a swing at me in front of a crowd!! LMAO

plp+1cxVGUcE People like you give minorities a bad name. I will focus on this so called plan. Last year during one of the town halls with I believe it was Dave Phillipe? Someone asked the question , Do we have to live in Dearborn? The answer was if you clear it with you "TEAM LEADER" The answer was no.
If you look at a typical day of a regular D&R. 99% of his or her interface is done with web x. I am sorry but in all my years we never sat as a group since WEX to develop ideas. This sounds like somebody justifying their job (ref. BLAZING SADDLES). Now there are times a d&r must be onsite like a build or launch. I will not argue that one. Plus you have those jobs that require a person onsite, calibrators and certain test engineers. So when merit time comes in my opinion they should be given extra. But I suspect our senior management already know this and will utilize this as a tool for the purge. Just an opinion.

Stupid plan because it shows Ford doesn’t have enough work to do, and another round of cuts is necessary.

Ah ye have little faith where there is HR will to boost attrition of target groups there will be a way. Requiring ability to be on site with 1 hour notice, and having “pop” drills to verify compliance being one, another being capturing and reporting on origin IP locations. Another being requiring one day a week on site and staggering the days being another. Of course involuntary purges also are in the playbook.

Whitmer will shut “non place dependent” work down again. I’m guessing in Oct/Nov. We won’t be going back in Jan.

@plp+1cxVGUcE You are absolutely correct. Conference rooms were booked solid for the year yet always empty. Management demanded the EA or Meeting Facilitator book a room. Everyone calls in because 1) there are so many back to back meetings, it is physically impossible to attend; 2) if you have work to do, you have to stay at your desk to work while wasteful meetings drone on your 2nd or 3rd monitor; 3) you are just a meeting troll with nothing to add and just want people to see your name on the participant list.

Bl---s have legitimate reasons to distrust the government about medical issues. Yet lefties think bl---s are so d-mb they will do anything for $100.

As of August 16 , 31% of the black population and 37% of the Hispanic population have been vaccinated. According to lefty “ logic” the test must be Trumpists.

But then , lefties think minorities are too stupid to get an ID , use a computer , or know what’s best for them like their white daddy saviors do.

Kiersten has to provide 'value' to the company. /s

Pre-pandemic we used to have these things called conference rooms. They were used for holding these "collaboration" events that we would call meetings. These meetings consisted of the admin showing up to the room and setting everything up by calling into the WebEx meeting using the speaker phone and displaying everything up on the projector. All 20-30 of the other people invited to the meeting just called in from their desk, their car, the bathroom, the smoker's area, the cafeteria, from home, another office location, their cabin up north, their Florida vacation home, etc. This has been going on for years. Why the push to have us back in the office and returning to this behavior when we can just as easily continue WFH with the same results?
Nobody ever physically attended any meeting unless their favorite new archenemy was on the agenda for a crucifixion by an LL5 and they wanted to attend the spectacle in person like a medieval execution.
What purpose does it serve to have us come back? The friendly in-person back stabbing camaraderie? The relaxing commute on the Southfield death strip where we can forget the stresses from the office while being almost mu---red by all the reckless drivers?
Speaking for North America, I don't trust a single one of you old white grumpy a-s trump loving conservative boomer man-children who don't believe in science and vaccines, despite the fact that most of you pale overweight unhealthy weaklings would have died of polio without being given that vaccine in your youth. You've been spending years coming to work "just a little sick". You spend all day coughing and sneezing in meetings while joking "I am saving my sick days for when I feel well during the summer, har har har".
While I am ranting about the office culture, I also think that the strong desire to return to the office all originates from the classic boomerism, "I want to return to the office cause I hate my wife, family, and home life". That's fantastic, just the type of people I want to be forced to surround myself with for 8 hours in an office.
I never want to go back cause I simply don't trust anyone to do the right thing anymore.