If I know for sure that people who are doing the same job as I am are being paid more?
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Not for you.
I have no doubt that your supervisor wants to fire you.
I would assume that you are already on a SRDII'd list so I would not worry about it.
To the poster below. You made me chuckle when you used the term 'lifer.' It reminded me of my time in the military. LIFER was an acronym:
Lazy
Ignorant
Fu**er
Expecting
Retirement
Others have expressed this before
Ford is NOT a place for early to mid career employment and growth.
Ford is a place for post mid-late career where you just want a paycheck for showing up.
So don’t whine about your $, leave, achieve, boost your salary and then if you want -return.
In your early to mid career you need to work at companies where you can obtain deep and wide set of skills. Due to Ford silos you will never get the skills you need for career development at Ford.
Once you have solid skills you can then “work” at Ford. You will be on easy street as you will know more and have better skills than the Ford lifers. You can put in two hours of work a day and get Top Achiever status, because quite frankly the skills and effectiveness of the lifers at true work is abysmal. The lifers do excel at Ford bureaucracy (creating and navigating)
All true, and very sad, responses. This contributes to the exodus of young, ambitious talent. With pensions gone, and so-so benefits, the young are rightfully working for money. The only way to get more money, above a 2% annual merit, is to leave. Ford is not a family.
Are you crazy? You ask for a raise, it puts a target on your back. Head down, mouth shut, work hard! Good golly!
I assume when you ask if it’s safe to ask for a raise you’re concerned about layoffs and the answer is “it depends”. I was given a substantial mid year raise a number of years back. I had discussed it with my boss, they did some analysis, and discovered that I made significantly less than others in my job family in spite of me consistently getting better reviews. I’m concerned that it backfired because SRD seemed to target some older people who made more than their peers. I was SRDd and I’m confident it wasn’t performance related. Ford sees people as interchangeable and replaceable and having a higher salary than your peers can be a liability. If the next round of layoffs is based on performance and yours is high you should be safe. If they’re looking to eliminate the most costly people you may not be safe. Ford’s compensation and layoff practices seem to benefit the solid average performer. Low performers and high salaried people can be at risk during layoffs. If you’re a low performer you can put the pedal to the metal and resolve it. If you have a higher salary it will follow you for a long time.
Your pay level at Ford has little to do with the particular job you are doing at any given moment. Rather it is a result of what salary you accepted when hired in, grade classification, engineering degree uplift, years and pay raises received in the past due to success or even at times favoritism. Because of all this, you need to look at where you are in your salary band - not your job or those around you. If you are in the lower quartile, you will likely get a higher annual for no reason whatsoever , while those in the higher quartile will get less. Yep, the system is set up to reward the lowest paid and punish the higher which then leads everyone to pretty much have their fates decided automatically. The lazy are rewarded and hard work is ignored.
I don't want to become a target for future cuts.