Many say this, that no one should plan to stay at Intel for more than 5 years, but I don't understand why? I'm not saying that it's great here, maybe I would be much better off somewhere else, but let's just say that after four years I'm very comfortable here and I would like to keep my job here as long as possible.
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"Almost 100% of it depends on the team you work with however. I've been on good ones. The bad ones i transfer out of, simply put."
That's really the truth of it. One bad team / FLM and you're cooked. Easier said than done to transfer out of a bad team to a good team, especially if you've only been at Intel less than 5 years. And it's easy to transfer into an even worse team (they far outnumber the good ones... and, uh, have openings).
Being on a bad team or having a FLM / SLM who are out to get you is needless to say extremely stressful.
That’s true. Imagine at Amazon or Apple. You would probably work twice as hard for maybe double the pay? Work weekends? Why do it? In these trying times, it’s better to take a close look at what is priority. Mental health and trying to find some area of satisfaction in your life. Could be watching your kids grow up in the year and a half of shelter-in-place. I’d bet your father or grandfather or further back toiled everyday and didn’t get the chance that we did!? Gratitude
I like the flexibility and work life balance. Some of the other places pay almost double but boy do they crack the whip.
The leave's are fantastic (12 months for fathers!). Never once have i been questioned on a personal leave when needed to take care of ailing parents.
Sabbatical is a huge perk (time is worth more than money).
I genuinely like the people i work with, well most of them ;)
Inertia/lazyness to be perfectly honest. Being able to coast and focus on mental health dealing with family issues is very important at the moment and i don't need the added stress of competing.
Almost 100% of it depends on the team you work with however. I've been on good ones. The bad ones i transfer out of, simply put.
I was laid off on my 5th yr and at that time the average tenure of a TD PE was about 2.5-3 at most - I knew few Ivy leaguers that barely lasted a year or two, and an army of Indian GC candidates that soldered on.
Anecdotal evidence for you, but I was laid off after 5 years at Intel. Found a job through a recruiter (paying almost twice as much) and she said that I stayed for just the right amount of time, if it were any longer it would have looked bad to potential employers.
I can only guess that employers have caught on to the fact that Intel is a job of make-work and bu-t kissing and that staying too long probably means you have forgotten all your technical skills and stagnated. I can say that was starting to be the case for me. At my new job I can't believe how much opportunity there is to actually innovate and challenge myself.
I like my job too, but I have strong technical managers that are able to immediately cover for people on vacation, and it is encouraged to take time to sharpen skills to perform better. You cannot do this job without technical knowledge. People usually leave the org I am in for better pay, but I think it’s common to get a pay raise when changing jobs. I’d not be surprised if people who leave Intel, work for other companies and then come back get raises. You can also get a raise from doing an internal transfer. I only come here for scattered grains of truth.
Once you are fully vested in your retirement contributions you should also have a realistic understanding of where your future is going with the company.
Intel does not reward competent "steady Eddies" that get the job done every day and keep the machine producing. There's no glamour in that for your manager to build on and you'll be in a 2% pay raise rut every year they even give pay raises.
Look around and see who is getting advanced and make a realistic evaluation of your position. There ARE other companies that value the skills you may have, and often will pay you what amounts to 5-10 years of pay raises at Intel.
Companies like Intel count on the inertia of people who don't want to go through the trouble of seeking out something better, have established roots in town, etc. to just take what they give them. It's up to you to do better.
Yeah in 5 Pat will be gone and the company will be split into five parts with government taking over one for sure and Pat will be on the same side as BK, BS and BK
Stick around if you're happy. I learned a tremendous amount at Intel, had a lot of good friends, and the company did well by me. Never in all the many years I worked there did I hear the complaining that abounds on this board.
If you’re happy, stay put. Why are you on a layoff board if you like intel so much?