Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Am I a 'subaverage' employee (salary-wise speaking...)

First of all, I acknowledge I should not bring this topic to this board; glassdoor, payscale, etc are more appropriate but this board gets more engagement and somehow related to layoff...anyway...

I've been here for 6 years. One thing I notice the salary is always below midpoint, just inch away from 2nd quarter...even after promotion, the next GS level, it puts me below 2nd quarter......is this the case for you?

I casually made a joke during review meeting with boss, telling him I am still a subpar employee even though I hit all your work target and exceed some, even saved you lots of time, but my salary still indicates I am a subpart employee...

I am not greedy, but does this happen to you? Of course HR has secretive formula sheet to calculate this and it is possible that the salary above midpoint, or even at 3rd, 4th quarter can exceed the 1st 2nd quarter on the next salary level.....

Just curious to know your years of service and if your salary is below or above midpoint after years of yearly salary increase....only thing I can think of this is boss wants to keep my salary low so the next round layoff, HR wont eye on me...lol

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I wouldn't say a damn thing like that. Honestly you should have asked him how they calculate pay and how its connected to your reviews. you may or may not be a sh---y employee but the comment probably. You are evaluated against the other people in your department and its all relatives so you yes you may be the lowest or on the lower end performance compared to your fellow coworkers or dept employees. Maybe you have a lot of all stars maybe there are people smarter than you and know how to get recognition for work well done or get themselves in front of managers because the managers all get together and do your review so if half the managers and supervisors in your dept don't know you guess what happens to your review you get shuffled lower and lower relatively amongst the employees I wouldn't rely on just the one supervisor to sell you as a great employee in that review meeting.

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Post ID: @9kgi+1be4lJlw

It would appear you are sub-average.

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Post ID: @3zxs+1be4lJlw

I would be cautious about trying to get past the midpoint of your pay grade. When head count reductions are needed that is one of the metrics that’s is considered, is your salary above that of peers in the same job family. The people making reduction decisions don’t seem to consider that a person has a higher wage because of excellent performance reviews. They see the higher salary and think they can get someone to do the job for less. That, along with pensions, is one of the reasons we saw so many high performers released during SRD. Of course you don’t want to be at the bottom of the performer list either because that always puts a target on your back. Ford seems to value a solid average performer.

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Post ID: @1jln+1be4lJlw

In the really old days, the range of pay raises was quite large (up to 10%) and there were fewer limits on the number of O's required to get the larger raises. Today, and for many years, the range of pay raises is quite narrow and are likely in line with the increase in salary ranges for a given GSR level, so it will be difficult to change where you are in the pay scale without consecutive O's or increase via Senior Engineer designation.

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Post ID: @1sth+1be4lJlw

I would not have made a passive aggressive joke to your boss about your pay. He or she didn’t show it, but you made him/her mad. Also, if you want higher pay then strive to get the “O” if they still do those and keep your mouth shut or try and get a promotion.

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Post ID: @1kej+1be4lJlw

Years ago HR came to our section to discuss the topic of pay ranges. The rep explained that it is their policy to work to drive people to the center midpoint.

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