Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Layoffs and failure are inevitable

Why will Pat fail is obvious l. Everyone wants great American icon to rise again but to wish won’t make it happen. It’s like every parent wishing for that model child and most parents now doesn’t matter what you do wish has nothing to do with it

IDM2.0 is going to crash for so many reason, but first is the culture of arrogance most obvious in the talk of resurgence with no real clarity of how they will do it. Lots of talk but no real meat. Better talk less and deliver or at least talk big and back up with more than a few hires and a little spending.

Ask any division at Intel how TMG/LTD/PTD treats them and transparency of communication is compared to the leading Foundry?

At Foundry if you don’t treat the customer well or don’t delivery they go somewhere else.

Everyone in leadership rose beating coached to treat their design partners a certain way and we’re promoted and rewarded for that! You think that after twenty plus years of rewarding a culture, leadership and value lack that they change overnight. Yeah does a zebra change its stripes overnight, NOPE. It’ll take leadership purge, strong reinforcement of a new value and culture and then mutiple years to gain customer trust.

But than got to ask you why would any one choose TMG for x86 or anything in Foundry space? Inferior IP, inferior manufacturing scale, higher cost and lastly inferior technology.

It’ll be another five years before they climb out of the BK, BS, Andy FUBAR, but sadly the competition is ahead and spending more with more scale. See nil chance of Intel returning to anything but a distant second. The more Pat wastes valuable resources competing is like Russia trying to compete with US in the Cold War, the outcome is inevitable!

FUBAR that Pat’s current thrust is wasting his energy and leadership, sad as I had hoped more from Pat giving his credibility to pivot the company. Pat won’t have a legacy in 10 years like Lisa has built

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Post ID: @OP+1bc12AVI

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115 million pay package rejection says it all. Shareholders are not interested in stories.

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Post ID: @7zls+1bc12AVI

Managers don’t manage at all. They take all the high-profile project roles away from ICs. Some then stand back and say “Look what I did” and get recognition and bonuses. (We know who they are.) Managers should learn to manage/coach and stick to that and be ranked and rated based on the performance (and advancement) of their teams and say “Look what THEY did.” Success would explode.

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Post ID: @4ves+1bc12AVI

Well just a few points here.

The first is that on one hand they wanted to improve the harsh fab culture....yet they took fab leaders and promoted them to positions in other areas. Basically spreading the problem.

You can go out and touch reality. I use to shop for a laptop and everything except for a few low end products were Intel. Now almost half I see have AMD labels on them.

Intel is losing some good people. They are going to Microsoft, Nvidia, Amazon.....not sure if it happens in the reverse. Other companies do not have as active message boards on this site.

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Post ID: @4vzn+1bc12AVI

I assume a lot of you who work at Intel already know that most of our middle and senior management are not at all competent. Most teams spend time with Updates, PowerPoints to pat themselves over their backs. Absolutely disappointing culture and leadership. This will be the reason for our failure- failure of visionary leaders at every level in the organization

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Post ID: @4ftg+1bc12AVI

Pat's moonshot moment is not lifting a miracle process out of the wreckage of the past 12 years. It is getting all those big brains they hired busy figuring out how to run a fab like a Chinese foundry. It shouldn't take more than 6 months to start filling orders.

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Post ID: @1jmn+1bc12AVI

absolutely. It is sad that we are sitting here doing the postmortem on SET, when PSO brought in Baine; PTD consolidated their power; and BK brought it all home- twice. Now PG thinks he can just reset the clock to
when he left. He's telling everyone that it is matter of national security for Intel to leapfrog TSMC with a 2nm process and get back the highest margin part of the market. The threat is not N+1 it is N-3. The chip shortage is at roughly the 45nm node. Intel has a huge advantage here in the form of installed fab capacity in the US. There is still time to pivot and run some existing factories as foundries to compete directly with China.

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Post ID: @1zii+1bc12AVI

@idl+1bc12AVI

Your post is beyond laughable and as the previous poster noted why failure is assured . Anyone who thinks time, or technology has has changed doesn’t have a clue.

The analogy you want to make would be that Intel and Grove didn’t pivot from memory and redoubled their efforts and won. May I remind you Andy’s boldness and legacy is that he realized he was in a fight he couldn’t win regardless of political or historical sentiment! HE PIVOTED from a business he COULDN’T win!

Let’s review why Intel and Grove pivoted. He realized he couldn’t compete against the scale and advantages of the memory producers. First sign of leadership and intelligence is acceptance of reality and ones competitive position.

Pat and his current strategy couldn’t be more different than Intel or almost any recent example of a company resurrecting it’s business. Apple and Microsoft, AMD are all examples of turning it wrong by pivoting with bold and visionary leaders who knew they needed to pivot.

Pat is doing the exact opposite, wants and dreams he can go to the old glory days. That is like saying IBM, GE, CISCO, SUN, Motorola etc can resurrect theirs.

Sorry total FUBAR. PSO and BK steered the company into the rocks, Bob was ill equipped to relocate the boat. Pat somehow thinks the tide will come back and it’s pretty clear it’s forever gone

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Post ID: @vad+1bc12AVI

The Original post is spot on and the first comment tells you what is wrong with Intel.
Is there any basis to belief that intel will regain the leadership. This is laughable as they pretend to predict course of other companies by claiming intel will regain.how do intel knows others wont have superior tech by then.
Last time i checked TSMC is also run by humans.

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Post ID: @xmt+1bc12AVI

There is absolutely no meat in your marathon cynical criticism. When Dr. Grove drifted Intel from memory business to Microprocessor business back in the mid eighties there was no dearth of naysayers like you either. So, wait and watch rather than making comments in haste without any data.

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