Thread regarding Anthem Inc. layoffs

No reduction in force has taken place. The only reduction is Anthem giving those jobs to Legato and Deloitte to reduce their costs in overhead. If they could outsource the whole damn place they would. PMs watch out...youre next!!! Deloitte is moving in on your jobs.

I have heard the way Anthem gets around the government /offshore issue is by issuing a certain visa type that while they live and work from India, they are considered "American" employees and not offshore. Seems a convenient way to get around the rules. Anyone know more about this?

@6xfk Not only themselves but all their buddies from back home too, and anyone willing to pay bribes or kickbacks to get into positions they are laughably unqualified for. The obvious corruption and racist discrimination around here is enough to make honest people want to pu-e.

The TAA is not just for import of products. Anthem has multiple approved cases for just this type of outsourcing listed on the TAA site. Your state's unemployment unit has someone to file the petition for you and submit to the Feds. If this is something anyone is interested in, you should roll the dice and file. Others have won their petition under same circumstances at Anthem.

RE: Hoping for the best's post:

From DOL's website: "the Trade Adjustment Assistance Program (TAA Program), provides assistance to workers who have been adversely affected by foreign trade"
This relates to imported products - since Anthem is not a producer of a product, this doesn't apply to laid off employees even if the jobs are outsourced.

Truth be told there are some racist foreigners in High IT Leadership who will do anything to keep themselves employed.

Everyone needs to look into Federal Government TAA benefits. Anthem has multiple approved cases for moving jobs offshore. It might help in the transitional time. Ive yet to digest it all as far as how to go about it, but definitely looking into it.

A word of advice for all my fellow friends and co-workers impacted. Youll be tempted to apply for one of 14 outstanding positions. Dont do it! Take your time, talent and loyalty to another company. Can you not see how hellish your life would be? Anthem will own you. Youll work 15-20hr days like the offshore team does now and have stress beyond belief and youll probably only get what youre making now. Please. Take this risk. Collect unemployment, take the summer off and go to one of the countless other places that will appreciate your knowledge. Dont allow them to take advantage of you one more minute.

All insurance has government regulation. The difference is that Medicaid is governed and funded by the government and commercial is only governed by the government. They could absolutely enforce commercial rules at the state level; some states already do it today. Just depends on the lobbyists’ effectiveness (and funding). Secondarily, corporations could require onshore support as a term of award. There are plenty of ways to ensure jobs stay onshore.

Medicaid is government run. If the suggestion is to have a government run healthcare system, then yes it works

State level would absolutely work. It’s not the state where the company resides; it’s the state where the insurer does business. So if they want to continue to do business in CA, OH, KY, NV, etc (the 14 blues), then the membership support in those states cannot be offshored. Some already require it for Medicaid...it’s Commercial who is lagging.

It’s a collective mistake, Col—-n. B & S. G was asked for ideas....they gave a co-----l process in the name of Agile .... they need BA to do everything, requirements, testing, refining everything...except development (she might be in the process to push development also onto BA’s) .... Agile team (PO + IT) are free to relax. When 1 or 2 things gets missed , they have a name to blame. There is no proper leaders to defend their team, no one can speak to correct process..... Ros. F (IT boss) keeps fighting, even when his team committed mistakes.....no one in CMOS has strong voice to give a reply to him. CMOs didn’t have strong leaders who can question the existing process..nor to give strong reply to IT..... Higher leaders have no brain, cause they trust IT and this Rs. F

Why is only An—Bh-t was given yearly promotions when rest of all were seeing losses? Food for taught!!!

The new leader(S) came from Humana are in-capable to build an org ....rather they are specialized to rip off things. When CMOS was moved under IT leadership, employees asked “what is the new name for a team” ....G—at blabbered to give a simple team name, she didn’t had any idea cause...she is just here to dissolve that org right? When that R—h idi—t laid off 100’s of associates..... in that 15 min call, he donot have common sense to thank them for their work. There are many folks who worked here from20+ years......these in-capable Idi—s came and turned their employment down. Anthem is just friends & family organization....this Gee—a brought that Ric—h from Humana as her personal assistant, he can’t even answer straight to a question. His coffee calls, are a big joke, he comes to the call with no answers.....that a comedy show to all of us.

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Your confusing state run healthcare for rules that level the playing field for American workers that work for American companies and the rest of the world. Issue is the top 1% continue to find loopholes in our system to hoard a ton of cash while workers scrape by.

1) State level will never work. Companies will simply move to states that allow the incentives. The lost review will mean states won’t even do it to begin with. This is the role of the federal government.

2) “ Let’s face it - if they really cared about Americans, they would stop the offshoring, period.” - that’s the point, they don’t care. Actions are needed and getting rid of the incentives is step one. Greed is the corporate language. So any solution needs to start there.

Geeta Wilson, Richard McCreary are new and didn’t proved their own ability yet. When Anil Bhat along with these 2 morans are doing something like this....HR proved to be in-capable to stop them. These positions being Non-IT are never supposed to be taken to India or any other county. These are reserved for locals. Why can’t they be dragged to court of law to pay the price?????

To whomever posted the Biden plan link: you don’t want a tax law that penalizes companies for moving jobs offshore. Executives and the federal government are already on the same team. All that does is shift corporate money to the feds which will result in more jobs sent offshore to break even. Your salary will go to the feds for their special interests and lobbyists and mansions and planes and relatives’ businesses. Let’s face it - if they really cared about Americans, they would stop the offshoring, period. Who believes the federal government has your best interest at heart? Nobody? Good. You’re right.

It needs to be done at the state level where they still care (a tiny bit more) about their constituents. Mandate onshore support. Medicaid does it in a lot of states; no reason commercial can’t follow suit.

When it’s affecting so many positions ..Legal action should be taken to stop these id--ts from making the mistakes of firing 100’s of employees to save few bucks by moving these positions to India

All this has started when CMOS was moved under IT leadership. 2 new jokers were brought from Humana to perform this magic show. These jokers are here just to dance per that new leader. Surprising fact is that HR being silent does not make sense. Why can’t employee take legal action on these mo--ns.

Tax incentives, lower wages, etc. - offshoring won’t stop until laws are changed to make it not so profitable. Corporate America runs on greed, not morals.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90622148/the-biden-proposal-for-a-global-minimum-corporate-tax-rate-explained

This has been in the works for a while, the area was set up to fail when a previous male leader came in and created “pillars” and took direct reports away from the female directors and replaced them with his handpicked male leaders. Then he pushed migrations so hard and hard they were going to fail. He saw the writing on the wall and left the mess. From the call where we were told we sucked but they weren’t there to take jobs, they were going to work with everyone’s I felt it coming. They used us to test, write requirements and will use us to train offshore people. How are they going to handle the government business that can not be worked offshore? Is compliance aware of this? Rumor is they have already accessed members data that they should not have. They have proven they do not care about the well-being of the associates or the members. Shame on you Anthem and those making these decisions.

Soul crushing is what Anthem did. Cold, calculating, and all about the mighty dollar. How would one want to be a customer of such a company that “cares”... beware. YEARS of highly talented associates who have given so much of themselves because they believed in their company. Were dedicated. Believed in Anthem as a great Place to Work. We lived your ideals. Such a shameful move was made. ‘Legato (owned by Anthem) teams, you benefit but know it’s because you can be paid so much less and that is sad. I wish you the best.’

Who is down voting this?? Management? HR? You essentially fired a whole area of your staff to save a dollar. Everything spoken is true and you're delusional if you think youre exempt ELTs wrath. Up vote!

And for the 14 you have to be an engineer. That leaves most of us out. So nice

Rule of thumb. Do the bare minimum, optimize all the training opportunities for your next job.

Only 14 jobs? This is sad to hear.