All the people I know who have decided to leave Intel for another job are happy with their decision. Before, so many people would leave for higher pay and would regret it within a month or two. That's not happening anymore. Now people are willing to even accept lower pay to leave Intel. Talk about how low we've fallen.
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Good and bad is relative. The real question is what problem is Intel solving? Why should customers pay Intel more when alternatives exist? And if the answer to both are not satisfactory, why contribute to the effort, unless you get paid millions and especially if you can really make a difference?
Both good and bad managers exit in almost everywhere. A question is how quickly to realize you are not gonna get along and get away from them if you cannot tolerate
For those exiting — There will always be some aspects of Intel that you will miss (example — while many Intel projects are wasted, any new job you get with the government will be far less efficient). And you’ll miss some of your fellow coworkers too. But if you are leaving, your reasons must exceed those aspects + your EB + everything else that kept you clinging there.
Best manager I ever had was at Intel. He got laid off e/o last year. 2nd worst manager I ever had just got a Chief of Staff job in one of the product groups.
Worst manager I ever had was at the company I joined after leaving Intel. I started at the new company (one of the then top 10 places to work) excited to be working somewhere not Intel. People didn’t believe how unhappy I was until I started saying “I miss Intel”. Because even folks who hadn’t worked at Intel knew it wasn’t the best place to be.
Not sure my point except, maybe, it is all relative.
The qualitative aspects of work shouldn’t be under-estimated. Compare the following scenarios involving working 60 hours a week:
1) Work core duties 45 hours a week, duties that are truly mission-relevant with team buy-in and comeradery. Spend 15 hours a week developing new skills and tools to help boost future personal and team productivity
2) Spend 60 hours a week on core duties which change often due to changing management perceptions of what is important. Your duties actually involve 60 more hours worth of work you can’t do and you constantly worry that the unaddressed work will bite you in the fanny. 0 hours spent on innovation and development activities
Intel seems to have be a lot more of scenario
2 these days.
Intel managers can teach politicians a lesson or two about corruption and nepotism.
How do the managers compare to other companies? They seem quite bad to me.
The worst thing about Intel is the politicians and snake oil salesmen are consistently paid far more than everyone else.
I’ve always accepted that I’m underpaid because Intel had a pretty decent work/life balance compared to other tech companies. Over the past 5 years that’s changed. Now we all work 12 hour days on 3 projects, and it’s emergency-mode all the time. I can get that workload elsewhere and double my pay. Intel has no chance at retention with this staffing model.
Money can’t buy happiness.
That's what happens when people end up doing glorified data entry, email and book keeping most of the time. People want to use their brains and stop wasting their time. It's a total dead end.
Dude is middle of the mess Intel must pay over 200k per employee to fix it