Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Does management tend to make things personal?

When performance does not meet expectations, have individuals experienced being berated in front of peers? How was it handled?

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1ucs everyone who has worked with the mainframe team has felt the pain of dealing with very difficult people. I know exactly the individuals of whom you speak.
If possible find another area to work, not all areas are as bad as that area.

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Post ID: @2djm+19FVHS1a

Non IT person here that has been in multiple organizations. You best believe Ford management makes things personal. Often so petty you have no idea, then they hold the grudge forever and actively work to ruin people's careers whenever possible. Because HR leaves everything up to local mgt, never questioning or challenging, so many great employees are destroyed and promising careers permanently sidelined. All these petty people have to do is quote HR's famous abuse phase, "it's not the what, but the how". No more must be said or proved. I cringe every time I hear the execs parrot those words. The phrase is used as a blanket shield for petty nuances to hide underlying s-x, race, age discrimination and much more.

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@1dem+19FVHS1a you are lucky. Some areas are full of asshats. The worst two areas I have worked in are Mainframe ITO and Ford Credit IT.

Mainframe ITO teams and supervisors were very abusive and disrespectful. There was routine yelling and cursing in meetings and hallways. Backstabbing occurred in the lulls between yelling fits. Team meetings are soap operas. The GSRs follow along with the example set by LL6. The LL5 seemed to enjoy the spectacle. The LL6 stir the drama up and sit back and enjoyed the show. LL6 who refuse to participate in the drama are then targeted for abuse and elaborate character assaination.

Ford Credit IT was about the same, why communicate respectfully when you could yell, throw things, create drama and generally behave like an asshat. The behavior was clearly approved by senior leadership as one of Ford Credit IT infamous for those behaviors made it to CIO.

Now that I think about it the current biggest asshats in Mainframe ITO transferred from Ford Credit IT, could be that Ford Credit IT breeds them and then exports them to other areas?

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Post ID: @1ucs+19FVHS1a

From this perspective, relatively speaking, Ford is one of the most professional companies around. I have never seen a manager or supervisor act unprofessionally. Worst I have seen is a frown or a quick comment that they will talk later.

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Post ID: @1dem+19FVHS1a

Only when encountering stupid questions like this.

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Post ID: @1tfn+19FVHS1a

I guess that’s why people give 2 days notice...

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Post ID: @dkz+19FVHS1a

Yes, I have observed my boss routinely berating others in team meetings. When we were in the office you could hear him berating people in their cubes and the hallways.

He yelled at me and threw me under the bus for his error in a team meeting. I just got up and left for the day. I worked from home the remainder of the week, ignoring all his phone calls and emails.
He reported me to LL5 for insubordination, which was a mistake on his part as I told the LL5 (who was in UK) everything that was going on and requested he sign off on a transfer. Subsequently the other two key people on the team requested a transfer. The LL6 had been throwing us under the bus so he either had to come clean or end up with no one on the team who could do the work. He chose not admit he had been telling tales so he got what he deserved.

The guy has severe addiction problems and is either drunk or high all day long. He anger management problems and explodes in rages. Somehow they keep passing him around and HR never does a thing about him.

So yeah, don’t bother going to HR. Figure out a way to get the LL to fall on his own sword.

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Post ID: @cze+19FVHS1a

Do not report anything to HR. HR is there to protect Ford - not help the employees. It will backfire and whoever reported it will be punished, but Ford will make it look like it’s totally unrelated and not a punishment.

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