Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Head in the sand

Intel knew that Google and Apple were both developing chips... Intel ignored this for more than a decade. I participated in the corporate strategic meetings way back in 2004 - 2006 timeframe where senior managers conducted analyses and senior managers (VPs) concluded that these customers would not be successful at designing and making chips...

We can see what's happening now. Intel is in big trouble on many different fronts. AAPL will soon be a larger semi-con manufacturer versus Intel. TSMC and Samsung have already defeated Intel. Intel's days as a monolithic undefeatable monopoly are over for sure.

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The only way anybody will be able to afford an autonomous car is if the manufacturer also offers liability insurance with it, because no existing insurance company is going to take that risk. If they did the premiums would be too expensive for the general public.

I've always said "autonomous cars" was never about actually making "self driving cars." It's real value was in the data it would be collecting, making it practically impossible for any person to go anywhere without being tracked as to when, where, and with whom they travel, and with no "opt put" option since they will be in public settings.

Intel saw this as a way to sell oodles of hardware, which is what they're supposed to do. They didn't want to miss "the next mobile". So they did what they typically do and threw tons of money at it without a good evaluation of what they were buying's risks and benefits

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Post ID: @brql+18jvNQwe

Ouch looks like everyone is designing there own processor and can go to Samsung or TSMC and be one generation ahead, sigh what happened to that one generation lead of TMG?

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Post ID: @brjr+18jvNQwe

@5fyh+18jvNQwe Intel managers and fellows have no vision, no one gets fired for doing the same old thing with lots of money and confusion of BS, perfect for a finance weenie with BS as initials, he could smell BS if he stepped in it.

But once someone else does it, it is a great idea: RISC, deep pipeline, dual and multi core, chiplets, you name it intel dishes it till it takes off and they make it their own.

In the past tons of money and technology leadership allowed that, now intel lags in technology, scale, execution and with the layoffs and exodus talent too, they couldn’t even get a CEO and look who comes and who leaves says it all

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Post ID: @5rkr+18jvNQwe

Apple asked intel in 2008 (12 years ago) to do atom+Xeon silicon for MBP. Intel found 20 ways to justify that it is not a good idea... now that Apple has launched M1, intel is coming up with lake field.

AI in automobile is mostly hype... you will not see any autonomous driving in bad weather with full accountability... no one wants 90% Autonomous car where driver has to be there for rest of the 10%... that is why Uber has sold autonomous car division to Aurora. Mobile eye can allow you to change lanes during the day... who wants just that?... AI + vision = autonomous car is atleast 10 years away.

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Post ID: @5fyh+18jvNQwe

what a huge joke to even count on Mobileye to save Intel in any way shape or form

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Post ID: @3vgc+18jvNQwe

EyeQ5 is Mobileye’s newest SoC fabricated by using TSMC’s 7nm process technology, -EETimes

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Post ID: @gjr+18jvNQwe

@OP+18jvNQwe If you listen to the recent Interviews from Bob and Gregory and how they talk about the value of IDM, you’d know for sure they have their head stuck somewhere and it ain’t in the sand.

Let’s see you use customs tools and IP to design and tune customs chips on an inferior process node with poorer yields. You don’t have scale of volume and it offers no cost or performance benefit and yet you throw billions of dollars and you tell people it enables your competitive edge.

Lisa and every competitor laughing all the way to the bank and their next strategy meeting.

Either the greatest bluff for Chipzilla to re-emerge a monster again like they did from DRAM reinvention but you have to look at the past track record of statements and execution and realize it ain’t Andy or some great legend technologist at the helm but a bean counter and some executives lost from the dark ages are raised in their own kool aid and you just LOL. Some may have pity on how a company so once dominated and feared is now a skeleton of its once proud history and legacy.

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Post ID: @fwl+18jvNQwe

The world wants to design their own chips and have TSMC and Samsung fab them. Intel did not want to be just a fab and tried to diversify in many directions (BK's shiny objects), but has always failed. Maybe Mobile Eye won't fail though.

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