Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Where Corporate America is Headed

This new generation of workers has been in the workforce for 5-7 years, and American companies have already had a bellyful from the great cultural divide that exists between long established and historically successful business norms and the expectations and needs of a new generation that companies don't understand and don't know how to appease. Just read these boards. Would you hire these people? So how do companies, including EM and the majority of O&G companies survive?

They have 2 current solutions and are rapidly deploying them. First, white collar jobs will be sent overseas. Places like India, South America and the Far East are already top choices, and soon stagnant economies like Japan and Eastern Europe will be begging and bidding to host these jobs. These jobs will be a boon to their economies and their people. American companies will flood these locations with expats for a long learning and transition phase, but overall costs will be much less than supporting this new generation of American workers and their low productivity and never ending complaining.

Second, blue collar jobs will be eliminated through automation. For those that can't be, companies will restructure to be lean and mean, cutting salaries and eliminating benefits to attract just enough people, probably contractors not employees, to do the work with lines of people waiting for jobs if the current workers don't want them. Standard of living will fall dramatically.

Sad but true. There is no longer a viable and trainable workforce of young workers with the skills, work ethic and reliability to sustain what for decades has been the highly valuable American worker. Just look around. It's not a pretty site, and companies aren't waiting any longer to see if this was just a temporary phase. American culture is changing, and many believe not for the better.

So for all of you young folks complaining about everything under the sun, better wake up. Train is rapidly leaving the station with few seats for you. Businesses always find ways to survive, and they are being driven overseas to attract the workers of the future. If you just keep whining and don't adapt, you will be left behind.

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Post ID: @OP+18iYOp5H

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I'm 49, so my sympathies generally don't lie with millennial's. I've been silently following this board for months now, and I can't wrap my head around this discrepancy that I keep seeing that's personified in this thread. The generation older than me, who I find very kind and polite in person, keep telling everyone unsolicited how great they were when they were in their twenties, make a ton of rude snowflake/mommy comments towards millennial's, and laugh at those in the younger generation who've recently been laid off ... but in the very next breath they're whining about why the younger generation doesn't respect them, doesn't learn from them, etc. Really???? Do they really not understand that showing massive amounts of disrespect to those below you will not garner the admiration of those very same folks?

I sincerely hope that the older generation loudly making all these venomous comments are either millennial trolls or people who do not actually work at EM. God help us if these, sorry, 'boomers' are still working at the company and in leadership roles.

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@yut+18iYOp5H

How long did it take you to come up with that totally insightful analysis? That's what I'm talking about, yeah!. Future leader with great motivational skills and sound judgement. Even used a 3 letter word that made him tickle tickle. Proud of you. Actually I believe you meant teat, but you still get a prize because you almost sounded it out properly. Brush up on that spelling and phonetics. Glad to have you at EM building shareholder value!

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Post ID: @2xis+18iYOp5H

@zsl+18iYOp5H

I am sure your parents love you and think you are wonderful. But assuming you are out of their house, we don't hold Mommy and Daddy responsible for your actions and beliefs anymore, we put that at your feet. Take responsibility for yourself.

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Post ID: @2ebl+18iYOp5H

Ha my comment from yesterday was deleted. Probably bc I used the word pharaoh and it maybe offending that crowd? Not sure.

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Post ID: @2zuo+18iYOp5H

@yut+18iYOp5H and others

Thanks for all of the insightful feedback from you and others. As usual, attack and dismiss what you don't understand as opposed to thinking and learning. That's the norm today. It's funny that your hard working predecessors built great American companies and a great country, but these are all worthless in your sight All of a sudden when it's your turn to step up, nothing works, everything has been done wrong for decades, everyone else is to blame and on and on and on.

But, nasty comments, total disrespect for everyone and everything around you, hate filled views, inability to perform and cope, etc. will define much of your generation. Neither EM nor the rest of the world will bend to your will, but will simply find a way around you. It won't be that hard. It's already happening. Many of you will be unemployed within the next 5 years and will still be trying to figure out how and why. There will always be boards on which to attack others and I see much of this in your future. Might want to polish up on a few foreign languages so you will be able to speak to your new bosses.

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Post ID: @2omn+18iYOp5H

I actually maybe one of the few that has a lot of hope for our younger generation. Some of my "kids" (new hires on my team) are incredibly talented and driven, work way harder than I did when I joined the company. My husband is a highschool teacher and I see students not having any fun anymore, studying constantly and suffering depression and anxiety worried about getting top grades and into the best colleges. They care about inclusion and the environment and have big dreams for a better world. When I went to school we spent most of our free time playing spin the bottle and sneaking m-r-j-a-a... Ha! I think "the kids are alright" and America will be just fine. Maybe it will be different, and the company will transform, but it's not all going to hell I don't think.

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Post ID: @2lbp+18iYOp5H

@zsl+18iYOp5H
37 years of service (recently retired) here and am a boomer. Parent of 2 Gen Y’s and grandpa of 8 Gen Z’s.
You are right on track! We raised them the best we could, now let’s move out to the farm and let the kids handle it. All will be fine, if we did our job right.

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Post ID: @1sfv+18iYOp5H

@lvi+18iYOp5H Read Private Empire: ExxonMobil and American Power by Steve Coll. You will discover the corporation does not exist to help America. Only motive is profit. Think Atlas Shrugged.

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Post ID: @1lfy+18iYOp5H

Is that why when we were in the office you could walk around any given day and see the majority of boomers playing on their phones/iPads. Or when we had offices they'd close their door and read the newspaper.

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Post ID: @1ady+18iYOp5H

The OP has strictly an old school O&G mentality. Younger people dont think like you. High time for a change. All other industries have more than adapted to new ways of doing business for decades. Let the under 40 crowd take over the O&G reins and see what they can do. Add value when you can. They'll make "mistakes", but, also improve ways of doing business.

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Post ID: @nkj+18iYOp5H

yhw+18iYOp5H Let’s be honest their all slave labor countries and won’t be long before they start demanding the same pay. Exxon’s already had to offer employment and benefits in India where they only wanted contractors just to stop the revolving door.

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Post ID: @bji+18iYOp5H

OP+18iYOp5H That tends to happen when all of your borders are just a free for all. Try to do that to Russia, Japan, Germany, hell even India.

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Post ID: @hbw+18iYOp5H

: @yut+18iYOp5H Your a little classless. Actually more sickening or both. I don’t know who 0P is but he or she clearly is more intelligent than you.

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Post ID: @lty+18iYOp5H

OP - I know you've probably been in the XOM bubble for a while now but outsourcing and automation have been impacting the US workforce for decades now. Younger professional are keenly aware that skills and experience will need to continually evolve in order to stay relevant. This new generation of professionals are both highly capable and adaptable.

I'm not really sure where you got the idea that businesses always find a way to survive. Maybe if they're deemed "too big to fail" by the government? Otherwise, there have been plenty of business empires that have been dissolved and forgotten. Not saying XOM will be one of them, but I can assure you they are not impervious. In fact, I would put more faith into the modern American worker than the modern XOM corporate strategy.

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Post ID: @fzj+18iYOp5H

Gonna put you in a home if you keep that attitude up OP.

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Post ID: @dzq+18iYOp5H

This is an American company. As such it has a duty to support The USA. It does this by employing its people with high wages. We feed this wage back into our economy by using houses, vehicles, food, clothes, etc which supports other Americans, our infrastructure, and very importantly our dept of defense. So you see by doing this, it is a betrayal to America and the American people. It’s not as simple as “we don’t like the culture of the young workers!”. By doing this, they would be committing something that is not far off from treason in my mind. I joined simpler trading and am trading with hopes to do so full time and not have to depend on any company. John Carter the owner has made over 17MM this year trading, and returns are around 100% in three months by risk management. Trading no more than 5% stakes, and no more than 1% on risky trade. Don’t depend the on “the company”.

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Post ID: @lvi+18iYOp5H

Hi OP, if large corporations had the option back in your early days, they would have do the same to your generation.

Your mistake is thinking the company cares for its people.....

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Post ID: @vtp+18iYOp5H

100 bucks says everyone that works with OP finds him an insufferable useless waste of space that does no actual work just thinks his opinions are worth their weight in gold because simply because he was able feed on the company tit for 20 years.

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Post ID: @yut+18iYOp5H

I think the exchange rate and decreasing cost of globak logistics are the real problem here. There is a HUGE salary difference between western economies (like the US) and developing countries. Do US workers provide 2-5 times as much value as someone in a different country? Probably not on average. Also since global shipping and communications have gotten so cheap, there are no longer any reasons NOT to pursue lowers cost labor outside the US.

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Post ID: @yhw+18iYOp5H

Hey young worker here. EM is a "play-the-game" company. Not a "hard-work-pays-off" kind of company. If the company doesn't value outside experience then EM dug it's own grave with its groupthink shovel.

I don't disagree with your thought that jobs will shift overseas but that isn't new.

You want EM to turn around? Change the incentive structure so that hard work pays off. Let employees apply to an internal job board. Stop wasting time with meaningless meetings.

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Post ID: @ivq+18iYOp5H

Tell that to the people 1 year or less from being NRE that got let go this time around

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Post ID: @wxk+18iYOp5H

And your generation raised us and made us what we are. How do you like me now mom and dad?

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Post ID: @zsl+18iYOp5H

Lol boomer

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Post ID: @gnx+18iYOp5H

Ok boomer.

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