Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

This company lacks leadership at every single level

I've worked at three major oil and gas companies that have all been through layoffs countless re-orgs and each had a general sense of uncertainty towards the future as the markets fluctuated. XOM was by far the worst at managing those factors. I have never seen a more toxic culture where executive management and rank/file employees were so disconnected and at odds with each other. This company lacks leadership at every single level.

Nobody can expect a job for life or to go through uncertain times without some organizational changes and force reductions. However, people should expect a level of respect from their executive leaders and not be treated with contempt, at times. We're all adults and most people can handle tough conversation so long as you're up front and transparent with them. Being intentionally vague and working things behind closed doors just drives the wedge further and further and there is zero trust in the workplace.

Perfectly said by @yio+18SKeKSS.

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ID: @5dld+18ZK8McU Unfortunately, this happens far too often in this company. I had an incompetent and sneaky team lead who would lie about my work behind my back. My supervisor was immature inexperienced, and she just yelled at me when I tried to talk to her. I found another job and got out. I know other people who had bad bosses and were forced out, or got frustrated and left. It’s a toxic culture and the managers have no interest in anything other than protecting themselves and lining their own pockets. It’s also why the company is failing. Not all companies are like this. You will land in a better place.

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Post ID: @8tmk+18ZK8McU

@5bmm+18ZK8McU Very true. They make sure to always protect their kind even after I requested an open audit and provided proofs and evidences to support my case. But honestly I shouldnt have expected much from my supervisor as she was technically inexperienced and always s—s up to people of power. My team-lead was a habitual liar and a covert narcissist. The collective gaslighting and mobbing (team lead + supervisor) that followed was the worst part and pushed me to the brink of insanity. Coming from a financially conservative family with 2 years experience and not having a job is challenging, but I'm steadily regaining my mental health and confidence. I'm hoping like many others in this forum that'll I'll be able to find a suitable job that has a decent culture, values employees based on their merit and not with who they are friends with. Vv

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Post ID: @5dld+18ZK8McU

@3xpk+18ZK8McU I had a similar problem and left the company. I’ve heard of other people in similar situations. It’s the luck of the draw. If you end up with a bad team lead or supervisor, there’s really no option other than leaving the company. Management sticks together and will throw the employee under the bus. No matter how incompetent they are in management, once they’re in, they’re in.

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Post ID: @5bmm+18ZK8McU

The Rockefeller dispute below is hilarious.

To @1kcy+18ZK8McU:
I think maybe you took the film 'There Will Be Bl00d' as historical biography.
It was not a Ken Burns, but a Paul Thomas Anderson flick.

However - I believe your quote to be accurate on its face.
No pinochhios.

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Post ID: @5jmn+18ZK8McU

I was a new hire and was let go during the staff reduction program directly because of a toxic-invompetent teamlead and supervisor. I approached my supervisor for help as my immediate boss was setting me up for failure due to his laziness and incompetence in being to effectively assign and communicate work with clarity. Guess what came next? Got mobbed, witch-hunted and experienced gaslighting for next couple of months and was finally booted out despite being a good contributor. Sick toxic-narcissistic people.

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Post ID: @3xpk+18ZK8McU

You are so right, closer to the well head production level, they have created a very toxic work environment. PIP feedback to me was " your are to slow in completing your assignments". This resulted in me having a very negative feedback performance ranking and offered the PIP

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Post ID: @3jyi+18ZK8McU

John D Rockefeller had an 8th grade education and said many things.
He had a right to do that - he's the most wealthy American that ever lived.
And he is spinning in his grave at the current state of this company.
If not for the money, he'd take it all back.

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Post ID: @2rwy+18ZK8McU

There was no John David Rockefeller, and John Davison Rockefeller never said anything like this. Quote someone that you actually know something about. Maybe sponge bob square pants.

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Post ID: @2bkp+18ZK8McU

EM will be reaping it in says a poster below.
It will reap exactly what it sowed - bad investments, bad management and bad group feeling.
Currently (and for several years now) it is ranked by Wall Street as a Dinosaur with bad teeth.

That will continue. It is irrevocable.
John David Rockefeller I - not an engineer - said it best:
'We pull from the field. We take it out. We didn't make it. Then it is gone'.

Simple words from a simple man.

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Post ID: @1kcy+18ZK8McU

@1zcp+18ZK8McU

I am talking about 60+ year old guys you could have literally heard snoring from almost half that wing of the floor.

Then when they get woken up by someone approaching. They take a bathroom break for another nap on the toilet.

Hey, maybe they were much more valuable than I could have imagined. But I doubt it.

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Post ID: @1ucf+18ZK8McU

@1ekx+18ZK8McU

You make a good argument for current and future downsizing, thank you. Yes, there is deadwood at every level. But, I doubt you have a full understanding of what anyone contributes. Some of these old timers have a wealth of knowledge and experience that is invaluable, but how would you know that unless you were in a position to need such info. Likely, some people think you are not earning your keep. Opinions are not facts.

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Post ID: @1zcp+18ZK8McU

All true, all good posts. I can say to tolerate the toxicity and the bad culture, ExxonMobil pays/used to pay higher than market salaries. This along with pension was the way the horror of working at ExxonMobil was cancelled out. It's like stay in Nazi German camp for 25 years and then walk away with a nice pension and 401K - at least when 401K used to be. I got booted and PIPed last July after almost 25 years, I hated every single day after the merger. Life was great at Mobil before the merger. I saw a few unhappy people quit early and tried to start a consulting company or something, but did not turn out big success. In my case, I tolerated 23 years of bad life but now with pension and savings I can say it cancelled out. Given the current climate, I would not stay though if I were younger as I doubt the pension plan will be supported in the current generous form for too long. To be honest, the new company I am working for does not have pension, but they have 40 options on mutual funds. Since I joined the new company in August, my 401K at the new company is almost up 23% with good mutual funds. ExxonMobil 401K options are few and not good really. So if a young person quits ExxonMobil today, joins another company, with 401K options, growth is better and the difference is not too much.

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Post ID: @1ffy+18ZK8McU

EM is going back to making reams ofcash. They got a bit fat, dumb and happy since the "merger" and in need of some correction and a few fronts. Get your panties untwisted and move on

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Post ID: @1onp+18ZK8McU

@1zbp+18ZK8McU
EM has changed, especially over the last six years.

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Post ID: @1hss+18ZK8McU

@1zbp+18ZK8McU

Some of your points are correct. However, its worth mentioning I saw plenty of low value individuals work at xom until their 60's. Just absolutely milking the company for decades. Then retiring with full pension to top it off.

I'm talking people that would have been tossed from almost any other company. Point is, many companies in the oilfield have been pretty cut throat. XOM was* typically not one of them.

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Post ID: @1ekx+18ZK8McU

So many of you are disillusioned with EM management because you came into the company with false expectations. How could you be so misinformed, and how is that anyone’s fault but your own. EM has never, ever coddled their workforce. As attested here by dozens, almost all employees, no matter their contributions over a career, get kicked to the curb about age 50. EM has ALWAYS been a hard place to work, always. This is nothing new. Countless people have said it’s not IF you get worked over, it’s just when and how often.

You should have properly researched EM before accepting a job. The company is not going to change just because a segment of employees are unhappy. You should never have hired on, but since you did, accept it or leave. It’s the only two choices available.

Many of you have valid complaints. But many thousands came before you and found ways to cope and even excel in this very same environment. It is not going to change, and EM will continue to be successful with or without you. They always have. Quit beating your head against a brick wall. There are other more progressive companies out there. You are getting nowhere here. Management does not know or care about this forum. You can make a career at EM and retire very wealthy, but you have to play by their rules. Screaming the same broken tune does nothing to help you. EM will not change. If you are unhappy now, you will always be unhappy at EM. Just a fact. Make a decision. You cannot change EM, at least not for the next 30+ years. Those in power got there by winning under the current system, and their successors are waiting in the wings. They are all the same.

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Post ID: @1zbp+18ZK8McU

@1dpn+18ZK8McU
Thanks for a memory:
Early in my career and in very good standing, I was assigned as the 'Scribe' for an Executive Tour of many major global sites (mostly EU but including Colombia of all places) to meet with the Plant Managers / Medical Heads. The principal topic was SHE regulation impacts and costs.

I scribed pretty well and condensed it all into summaries for the 5-man touring group (CL30-32s).
I was then asked to prepare an overall presentation of it all for their bosses (VP plus).
I did so - high level quirky-dots with good relevant numbers for thinking on the topic.

I'll never forget the response from my direct Executive:
"Make it more like a cartoon."

Never forget that - helped my career.

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Post ID: @1obf+18ZK8McU

The only flaw in your argument - "We're all adults..."

Once an adult reaches a certain tipping point in EM - say CL29.
It is back to a Junior High mentality.
A second adolescence you could say.

And it regresses further once higher in the ranks - until the person displays 'good potty' proudly.

A form of dementia, maybe.

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Post ID: @1dpn+18ZK8McU

Disconnected is the right term to use. I’ve heard from so many that management is disconnected from their employees. So many employees are unhappy. I am not sure how we got here. There is a big valLey between management and employees.

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Post ID: @dre+18ZK8McU

Many in “leadership” roles are merely looking to take credit for their achievements like individual contributors would, and are still being rewarded for it. EMIT is especially bad at this.

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Post ID: @crr+18ZK8McU

Disconnected is the best way to describe ExxonMobil. I’ve never seen such rubbish! Why isn’t any level of management stepping up and taking ownership of this sinking ship. No... instead they run and hide like cowards when you ask questions. Who would want to work for such a zoo. The stress is real and it’s getting worse everyday. Pathetic!!!

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