Thread regarding Gulfstream Aerospace layoffs

What hard lessons did you learn from working in this company?

“I've learned a very hard lesson. I've learned that the more you help your co-workers, the more your co-workers will come to ask you for help, and eventually they want to put that job on you because you are so good at it. And they will think and say that's your job. When you feel it's TOO much, you don't want to or can't help them anymore, they will hate you.
I've learned that nowadays employees are not valued by their hard work, but by having "good social skills". The more people spend times to go around and talk and talk and talk about non-work related to show that they have life out of work and how important they are, and whisper with each other about this person, that person, and ask others how they are doing to show that they have "concerns" and "care" for others, the more they are valuable. Haha.
So, if you don't know how to slow down and go around to talk with your co-workers, you are stupid. Nobody likes you. You have to learn to go with the flow. You can never finish big workloads coming continuously all the time anyway. The work is always there. Over all, if people don't do their work productively, that's not your problem. It's the management's problem because they don't value the hard working employees; they value the socializing ones more. That's the world.”

I lifted this from another thread here.
I couldn't agree more, @1xul+17m4vfCF. Going with the flow is perhaps the most important lesson, which I became especially aware of after the layoff.

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I learned that Gulfstream doesn’t give a f— about me.

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Post ID: @cqkq+17qDl8It

I left at my own choice and wasn't laid off, but the one clear reflection I have is that Gulfstream behaves exactly like it's the only horse in town. Go anywhere else worth its weight in sand and you will find something worth your while.

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Post ID: @cycr+17qDl8It

I was laid off. Here are my takeaways:

  • don’t live in a city where there is only one employer for your speciality. Once I got laid off, I had to move out of state.
  • if you are stressed out on Sunday evening, it’s time to find a new place.
  • a company unwilling to adapt to change or unforeseen issue is due for failure (“G500 engine is not our problem” until it officially became it).
  • don’t plateau. I was the subject matter expert in my department, and after 10 years and showing up in a new company, I see that I lack a lot of knowledge. Horrible feeling.
  • don’t think you are irreplaceable. They won’t have any issue laying you off. They will make the non-fired people work twice.
  • knowing higher-ups won’t save you. SVP was a close friend and he couldn’t do anything to save me.
  • “there is no lay-off in mind right now”. Typically Mark Burns quote during all-hands. Typically one happens a week after.
  • MAKE RELATIONSHIPS with vendors. They are the people who will connect you to a different company and they will help you get a job.
  • train for interviews.
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Post ID: @czie+17qDl8It

I learned hard work and loyalty get you laid off. I learned GAC doesn’t pay all that great. Benefits, particularly insurance, are much better elsewhere. So much better off at my new company.

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Post ID: @adpz+17qDl8It

I learned I should have left Gulfstream a long time ago. The place I work at now I am valued, I'm apart of a team, and most importantly, I'm not micromanaged. I'm left alone to do my job and everyone is accountable for their own work. I couldn't believe the night and day difference the first few weeks at my new job.

A job is like a relationship - don't let them treat you bad bc of the money being good.

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Post ID: @9uzv+17qDl8It

I believe it is crying. By being an over the top 'helper', I was open to many opportunities that made me more valuable to multiple organizations.
The lazy will always be lazy, they will be needy, and they will demand union representation. The good news is that management sees who's really doing the work and bringing value. Yes, you might get laid off. Chances are that your resume, and quite a bit of luck, will be better then another persons based on those opportunities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LopI4YeC4I

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