Thread regarding Anthem Inc. layoffs

Don't leave before you know where you're landing

Finding a better job than this is great, but does it come with guaranteed job security? A pandemic is still raging and I don't care what industry we are talking about, nothing is 100% safe from layoffs. And if you are the last person to join a company, chances are you'll be the first to leave when cuts are afoot.

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Post ID: @OP+17lYyl3y

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Yea, you guys are getting hosed on the health insurance. I left Anthem last year and went to work for a non profit organization with only eight employees. And I have better insurance there! I have a PPO with a $1000 deductible. For pr-scrip-ions and doctor appointments, I have set (low) copays that I pay BEFORE meeting the deductible. I bought a pr-scrip-ion on my Anthem insurance for which I paid $80, then when I was on the new insurance the same medicine was $30. You could argue that the nonprofit has only 8 people to cover, but insurance is supposed to be cheaper with a larger risk pool, not more. Yet dividends to Anthem stockholders go up most years. Executive salaries are exhorbitant. Maybe if Anthem didn't have to pay out so much money in severance and onboarding new employees they could afford a decent benefits package and stop cutting benefits.

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Post ID: @Fzca+17lYyl3y

How did employees like the ppo option to be double the price than the junky coverage hsa?? Criminal

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Post ID: @huyq+17lYyl3y

In IT, when doing root cause analysis there is something called the 3 whys. Asking “why?” three times to get to the real root of a problem. For example...

  • “Anthem let me go today” - why
  • “Because my job was sent to offshore” - why
  • “Labor is cheaper and Anthem does not want to pay my higher salary” - why
  • “Because the wealthiest 1% has taken $50 trillion from working Americans”

Immigration is just a distraction so Americans can rob Americans - using hate as a distraction is about as old of a tactic there is. In the 80s the CEO lived in the same neighborhood, but with the biggest house. Now the CEO is in gated communities, while the working class works multiple jobs.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wealthiest-1-percent-stole-50-trillion-working-americans-what-means-2020-9

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Post ID: @5gak+17lYyl3y

"Anthem is a leading health benefits company in the United States dedicated to improving lives and communities"

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Oh man that's a good one, oh my sides hurt so bad, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Do you think Anthem top execs who care about nothing but rolling around in a big pile of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ will let a brown noser like you stick around when they can send your job to a penguin in the antarctic who works for krill?

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Post ID: @5mkc+17lYyl3y

Anthem owns the company. So they employed smart israelis. Duh. If they made dumb decisions by working with dumb people, then you have a point.

Anthem Israel is part of a global ecosystem that connects leading innovation talent and technology enabling Anthem to apply exponential technologies to disrupt the way the US, and the world, think about delivering health care. We are partnering with start-ups, academic organizations, etc. in both the US and beyond to harness the best thinking and capability development to disrupt health care.

Anthem Innovation Israel, Ltd. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Anthem Inc.
Anthem is a leading health benefits company in the United States dedicated to improving lives and communities, and making health care simpler. Through its affiliated companies, Anthem serves more than 78 million Americans, including over 40 million within its family of health plans. We aim to be the most innovative, valuable and inclusive partner.

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Post ID: @5mte+17lYyl3y

My past history with working relationships with those in Israel was because of encryption technology. They had experts on protecting data. It may not answer the questions you have though, but with all the digital focus going on it may be tied to securing data. We already have apps in production that are from companies in Israel they have been in place since the 2000s.

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Post ID: @4ebn+17lYyl3y

"And if you are the last person to join a company, chances are you'll be the first to leave when cuts are afoot."

Not here. Anthem's criteria seems to be, "the more you know and the more loyal you've been, you're out! But we'll give you 60 to 90 days notice in the hopes we can download your historical knowledge to a newb we hired five minutes ago - because we recognize your knowledge is important, we just don't want to pay your salary or have you stick around till we have to pay out retirement."

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Post ID: @3cop+17lYyl3y

FinancialObligationsAreReal, VOTE

Drivers for today’s climate are ...

  • The current overhaul of the immigration system has lead companies to create offshore companies (Legato) rather than bringing workers to the USA which pay taxes and contribute to the economy
  • Mishandling of COVID has enabled an excuse for greed (move jobs offshore) to multiply in industries that have not had much of an impact (healthcare)

We live in a global economy; that’s not changing. Corporate decision makers are compensated with stock. Stocks are tied to profits. The simplest way to increase profit short term is to cut labor and assets (cost savings). Hiring overseas is tied to uncertainty with immigration and COVID (cost avoidance).

CEOs are making $13 billion in a day, while employees are peeing in cups on a truck to meet deadlines. Let’s stop blaming immigration and put the blame where it belongs, Corporate American Greed.

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Post ID: @2vqv+17lYyl3y

It's is so sad that US jobs are top of the RIF. Our congressmen need to stand up for EEO rights if Us workers vs visa. Anthem is becoming majority india in usa and legato at at 90 percent ratio. Soon all I s Workers will be targeted unless you are a director or Vp who gets incentives to do this. People do not matter only $$$. Please star taxing for offshore of IT jobs or we will all be dog walkers.

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Post ID: @2jtd+17lYyl3y

OhioNoMoreViaFraud, I understand what you are saying but what do think we could have done? What power did we have?

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Post ID: @1yby+17lYyl3y

If you are 55 and older, started your career before the Bush, Biden, Kennedy Immigration Act that sold out this country's future, you SHOULD NOT be qualified for ANY kind of benefits. Half of you gloating about your so-called hard-working career- if you had to compete with a foreign country that is obviously CHEATING the education system, CHEATING the immigration system, MANIPULATING people of power, you would have never held a decent job for ONE DAY IN YOUR LIFE. All of you ought to be investigated to see who got on-the-job training and who trained foreigners. If you contributed to that practice, any unemployment or severance you get should go to Americans who had to grow up after this reprehensible INA act.

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Post ID: @1gur+17lYyl3y

What company is going to invest in us older 'seasoned' workers? I'm walking dogs when I get laid off. Lol ..wishing you all well. Hang tough

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Post ID: @dos+17lYyl3y

57 yrs old and 30 years at Anthem and was laid off last month! Not in any hurry to get a new job. Will use the 26 weeks Supplemental pay+state unemployment....I deserve it!

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Post ID: @jos+17lYyl3y

Yep over 55 seems to be the group most targeted. I was RIF’ed last year and still haven’t found another job. Everyone is outsourcing and/or want young and inexperienced (i.e. cheap) workers. And most companies stopped hiring with the pandemic.

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Post ID: @ank+17lYyl3y

I have all targets over 55, 37 years of service, in one of ' those states' and in IT. I'm doomed..

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Post ID: @fho+17lYyl3y

This sounds suspiciously like someone from management who is losing workers as they migrate to other employers before finishing the end of year objectives. Anthem must be suffering since the exodus is happening before they drain employees from what they can get before disposing of them on their own terms.

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Post ID: @mjh+17lYyl3y

I am over 55, live in one of those certain states, and have 25 years of service. I know what is coming soon.

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Post ID: @trc+17lYyl3y

dkl+17lYyl3y this is absolutely correct. I’ve seen them lay off people that had 30, 35 and almost 40 years of service to this company. That’s just evil and criminal. I had a coworker that had 42 years of service that I begged every week to retire. I couldn’t bear seeing them lay her off after 4 decades. She finally did last year.
It’s a nightmare working Thursday to Thursday not knowing if this is the week your number will be called. Especially in a pandemic when jobs are scarce.

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Post ID: @ipq+17lYyl3y

This is good advice. Any time you can hold on to during a pandemic is a good idea.

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Post ID: @fpa+17lYyl3y

Normally I would agree with you on the last in first out portion of your comment. That's the way most companies used todo things, but that's definitely not what's happening at Anthem.

If you're 55 or older you have a huge target on your back. If you've been here for a long time, that target gets even bigger. If you live in certain states, it gets even bigger still and if you're in certain areas it gets bigger again.

None of those criteria are absolutes, there are exceptions, but by and large, that is what has been happening.

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Post ID: @dkl+17lYyl3y

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