I've heard from credible sources that all operations in CT, including engineering and manufacturing will be gone within a couple years. The virus has become the perfect excuse to finally get out completely.
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what credible sources? For the last few years Middletown has more test cells than WPB, and the new ones are integrated into the building with all of the remote controls which wouldn't be migratable. Current military contracts also prohibit moving significant assembly away from Middletown. For EH I think you are confusing the RTX on-site footprint reduction efforts that started from COVID with "moving" operations. If any of the office operations are permanently moved off-EH campus in the next couple of years those are just moving to "remote work".
Don't worry buddy, the military-industrial complex is gonna keep chugging along regardless of who the president is. Yet another grand illusion that they have you brainwashed into believing - that if "sleepy joe" is elected, he's gonna defund the military and police. He actually has a history of spending big in those categories.
Most of the money coming in will be military. Any time I am counting on the defence budget for my pay check I know how to vote.
I hate when I get what I for for.
As long as they don't keep voting like the union always demanded. Then the same thing will happen in 10 years at Columbus.
If the company lays them off so they can get unemployment (which is what I want) or if they can land a job that allows them to live down south, I'm sure they will get right on top of that.
If you want to move South why don’t you do so? I don’t understand what’s stopping people. If you think you have a good resume make the move.
i was told pratt is going to move facilities to columbia for many of the riches and exotic ambiance the country provodes from an employee who starts his day at 11am and smells like versaci cologne ,been trained at expert level in filing documents for about10 yrs now but who wishes to remain anymous at this time.
Florida's not my preferred location, but if I had to choose, I'd definitely rather live in WPB and the Greater Miami area than Hartford.
Who the hell wants to live in Florida? Much rather live in Maine over Florida or Connecticut.
If P&W threatens to move out of CT, state and local governments will threaten P&W with cleaning up their sites, which could cost $ Billions, so they will never leave completely.
BUT, that doesn't mean they won't scale way back. There is a history of skeleton operations in mostly empty buildings for years, so they don't have to begin to remediate the site.
Given a binary choice, young Engineering talent would rather live in Florida. Ask them. If they say no, ask then again after the first snow. Old Engineering talent either already took a VSP or is daydreaming about retiring to FL. Zoom school and Covid have completely erased the "my kids are in school/sports" objections for the engineers in between. Therefore, moving Engineering to FL over the next five years seems logically possible and would be looked on favorably by a majority of engineers.
If you argue "but Pratt made a deal with CT to stay for 10 years", all bets are off with any deal the old P&W made with the Government of CT a few years ago. The world changed multiple times since then and you are putting a lot of trust in people you say you don't trust.
Shuttering EH has been in the news. This isn’t new.
https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/pratt-whitney-announces-15000-layoffs-local-city-leaders-brace-for-economic-impact/
The company doesn’t need excuses to move work. It isn’t going anywhere
Have you been to Middletown? Have you seen the size of the shop floor? Replacing even a significant portion of that capacity would cost a lot of money and take a good amount of time.
Who ever you heard from must be mistaken.
Sounds like a bluff to pay less taxes or get more incentives and play one state/locale off another, but If everyone is working from Zoom, they can live anywhere.
That wasn't imaginable even 9 months ago and no way another "Engineering Building" ever gets built again, ever, in CT.
Two years from now, nobody knows right now. If they think they do, they do not.
UTC and PW have been b–ching for years they’re leaving CT, probably since the 90s. Very few changes happened besides the merger and Cheshire closing. This is c-ap
To the OP and others that know about this:
The labor would be moved out of CT as opposed to just firing everyone? Because engineering and other large chunks of work can’t be outsourced. It wouldn’t be too crazy to think the white collar jobs would leave
Quite certain you will see the bulk of P&W in Connecticut relocate to Florida or Massachusetts.
It's been done before in a sense - most of West Palm was moved up here in the late 90's / early 2000's, and WPB was left a ghost town.
My moneys on Massachusetts. GE headquarters are now there too.
Per the Hartford Courant, June 9, 2019
“U.S. Rep. Joe Courtney, a Democrat representing Connecticut’s 2nd District and a member of the House armed services committee, said there isn’t a lot of overlap between the two companies: Raytheon manufacturers missiles and systems and UTC makes jet engines.
Courtney said he expects UTC’s manufacturing facilities to remain a robust presence in Connecticut.
‘You can’t lift that up and land it in Waltham,’ he said.“
They’re not leaving the state, Connecticut is too involved with the aerospace industry, that and the state gives millions in tax credits. You don’t know what you’re talking about
You clearly don’t work in EH or you’re in a low level department. PW is so intertwined with that state’s economy and the local culture, it would never happen, both sides have too much to lose.
Literally no one has suggested that
Don't be that person Without a clue..