Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Are employees adequately protected by the federal WARN Act and/or state laws?

The WARN act stipulates that employees must have 60 day prior warning to being laid off. The law allows an exemption for "Unforeseeable business circumstances. This exception applies to closings and layoffs that are caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time notice would otherwise have been required". Can EM claim this exemption? The business downturn has been happening for months. Its hardly 'unforeseen'. We are protected right?

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WARN does apply. The exclusion for unforeseen is only if the circumstance causing the layoff occurred less than 60 days from the effective date of the layoff. In this case, the layoffs qualify as reasonably foreseeable >60 days out.

(2)(A) An employer may order a plant closing or mass layoff before the conclusion of the 60-day period if the closing or mass layoff is caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable as of the time that notice would have been required.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title29/chapter23&edition=prelim

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Post ID: @1xdk+17EdwnGl

Get over the WARN act. Jesus. It doesn’t apply and layoffs will happen through 2021, not in the next 60 days.

They’ll tell us. Then they’ll file papers based on detailed work that will happen over the next 3 months.

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Post ID: @1opk+17EdwnGl

WARN does not apply if layoff based on performance (PiP), and WARN is waived for unforeseen circumstances creating business uncertainty (Covid)

It doesn't apply in this case

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Post ID: @1trt+17EdwnGl

My interpretation of the law + the situation is actually that tomorrow's announcement qualifies as the beginning of the announcement period as it relates to the WARN Act.

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Post ID: @1nhd+17EdwnGl

Where would we find out if it is "announced" per WARN?
Given the info is coming out tomorrow, I must assume EM has danced around the WARN act.

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Post ID: @1enf+17EdwnGl

@fgj+17EdwnGl The cut percentage rumors I have seen would result in well over 500 people here at the Houston campus... this means the law should apply, no? NJ (for the Clinton folks) has a stricter law which actually includes part-time employees into the count and extends the warning time from 60 to 90 days.

  1. I don't know why this post has been downvoted, its a legitimate question and broadly applies to a lot of people potentially at risk
  2. Nobody saying 'no it doesn't apply' has actually provided concrete reasoning for why it doesn't. Seems like it does
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Post ID: @1vvi+17EdwnGl

No. It doesn't work here.

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Post ID: @vyu+17EdwnGl

HERE is definition of MASS LAYOFF under WARN act
Mass Layoff:
The term "mass layoff" means a reduction in force that:

  1. Does not result from a plant closing; and
  2. Results in an employment loss at the single site of employment during

any 30-day period for:
GLOSSARY OF WARN TERMS (continued)
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  1. At least 50-499 employees if they represent at least 33% of the total

active workforce, excluding any part-time employees; or

  1. 500 or more employees (excluding any part-time employees). (In

this case, the 33% rule does not apply.)

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Post ID: @fgj+17EdwnGl

hence notice 60 days before the end of the year

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Post ID: @qui+17EdwnGl

I don’t think so, but better to go gracefully with you chin up and start a new chapter in your life. Good luck to all.

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