“We agree with Gov. Newsom that it’s time to take urgent action to address climate change,” a Ford spokeswoman said. “That’s why we’re proud to stand with California in achieving meaningful greenhouse gas emissions reductions in our vehicles as we electrify our most iconic nameplates like the F-150 and the Mustang Mach E.
Will number of Ford employees change in this dramatic shift?
@3oev Billy was his useless self, but there's more to the story of how Wixom closed and it has to do with the behavior of the people employed on the line and their labor representatives. That place was a cesspool.
It's funny you talk about Bill and his visions. Drove by what used to be the Wixom Assembly Plant. In its heyday it was the profit center for the company. Continental, Town Car, Mark 7, Mark 8, Thunderbird, LS, GT etc. Well, poor planning/ neglect of Lincoln to fund all the Eurotrash Ford bought sealed that plant's fate to the point it was shuttered in 2007. Massive facility, able to make RWD BOF, FWD Unibody, RWD unibody. You could pretty much build any vehicle you want there. Local, so if there was an issue the home office was right down the road. Well the powers decided to close it (flipping id–ts). In steps Billy boy. Obvious this left a big hole of industrial blight at the NW corner of Wixom Rd. and I96. Bill's proposal was to convert the plant into an alternative energy park making wind turbines an solar panels. I thought okay. So the vacant plant sat another 2-3 years. One day they rolled in the equipment to demolish the plant. Sc-apped the whole facility and leveled it. Now sits a Menards, an RV dealer and a bunch of stores that cater to the Karens of the world. No one ever held that silver spoon accountable for his botched vision. Never heard how it fell apart, but safe to assume if he was involved he gave it the touch of death.
Any strategy Billy has come up with goes right into the toilet and we will have to go out and find someone who knows what they are doing. Billy of course will spin it like he and the rest of the Coneheads in his family found this person. If Alan and Billy got along so well then why did Alan retire 18 months ahead of what he originally said was his last day?
90% of our profits come form one thing F-Series. Sooner or later those sales will start to decline. Then what? We do not see a Vision or a Plan from our senior management. They lack confidence, courage and integrity.
Ford following that dumpster fire of a state, California, right into bankruptcy. Get ready!
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To answer the orginal post question, the number of Ford employees (and people being gainfully employed, period) will be dramtically reduced here in the USA and the West in general within 10 to 15 years. Heck, when Feilds was still CEO and Hinriches was here, they made it clear 5 years ago that moving to more BEV platforms means less factory space/size, fewer platforms, and far fewer blue and white collar employees. I forsee the current number of approx46,000 employees Ford has in SE Michigan alone could easliy go down to 20,000 or less between now and 2035. Being able to drive a 20 year old ICE vehicle is not really much of a choice, no is it? If fewer and fewer states & countries except sales of new ICE vehicles, how long before they stop being made altogther...and with those factores, goes the suppliers factories making the spare parts
Yes people, our future, but more importanly our children;s future is about a carefree and sunny as a turkey and egg sandwhich left out to rot for days in the hot summer summer. The full court press to socialism in the West in general and the USA in partical will make this country unrecognizable by 2035. No personal ownership of anythign excpet maybe some clothes on your back, no freedom of thought, no freedom, no freedome of moment, no work or very less work for most, forcing many to exist on government welfare (Universal Basic Income) and standing in lines for everything (what did you think the phony COVID scare was all about? It was a dry run test for the real cram down coming in a few years. Think COVID 19 scare is real - go to this Twitter feed and look at the real evidience of the non-issue: https://twitter.com/Adam_Creighton/status/1308652790823051264)
Most of us are going to be in for a real shock and will be in dire straights in 10 to 15 years, and even if you have a ton of money saved up and think you can ride out the store, don't get too smug 'cause what will happen if it is converted (beyond your control) to all eletronic currency and you say the wrong thing or think the wrong way, even once? Poof!! - here goes your money and everything else. Yes, they want total control and will stop at nothing to get it. I agree with the other poster - leave urban/suburban areas while you can, and start practicing to live a more simple life and doing more on your own.....those skills will come n handy sooner than you could ever imange! Having NO freedom of choice is never a good thing.....it is not the end of times, just the begining of the worst of times.
In the history of mankind, it's called voting with your footsteps. When governments become too tyrannical it is mankind's only option. My ancestors left their respective countries because of it, and in the coming years i predict a similar wave of departure will occur. California is a small scale example of what's to come. As people vote more and more for pro government control the net result is uncontested absolute power that is completely corrupted.
I find it funny how Ford tries to portray itself as the joe six pack blue collar company, but allegiance to over reaching policies like ban of ICE vehicles in fact hurts working people in California. There are forestry product companies which had to go out of business because the state would no longer register their trucks since they were too old, but yet still worked. When you operate at thin margins, chances are you can't afford a Tesla semi truck. The state is third world. You have extremely rich and those that barely make ends meet. The extremely rich make the poor think they will take care of them, but the truth is they want nothing to do with them. They live in gated communities with security detail where there are no rolling black outs and they don't have to look at the riff raff. I am just glad I don't have to live in that state.
California is not a good place to live. Cali cannot even keep the lights on so wondering how they are going to load up their electrical infrastructure more with cars since they are outlawing the combustible engine. Is the next step outlawing jets with combustible engines?
Implementing a strategy that everyone else is doing is not the defintion of smart...in fact, it is usaully the oppisite, as it makes you see like you are all the rest when with it's current troubles, Ford really needs to stand out more with it;s product offerings, not less. Europe is also a bad example, as they are also going mostly if not full blown socialism - let us know how that goes for you here when you can no longer own your own land or house, and can only drive what someone else in big government says is OK.
Electric vehciles in the US is still at the 2 to 3% mark - hardely call that taking off, and even then it is due to government subsidies and legislation.....not by nature choice. Yeah, they have a market, but it is not natural so you really can;t compare it to ICE vehicle market. Also, the lack of charging everywhere and the ability to FULLY or nearly fully charge quickly (my F-150 truck 26 gallon tank can be filled up from needle on empty in less than 10 minutes, and then I can drive well over 400 miles without stopping) is a big deterent for most people whom can only afford one or two vehicles.
Yes, that last part of the last sentence above is the big secret no one talks about. Tesla owners almost always have at least one (and most have TWO - even in Europe) other car that is an ICE, whereas there are many people that have just one ICE car. This is why for Joe Q Public charging rimes and availablity of chargers is a big deal and is something that cannot be fixed with legislation alone. I get your point that just becuase Cali does it the rest of the states don't and Ford can make both, but think about how the cost structure will be out of whack having two separate types of production facilities. Plus, who wants to live in Cuba.....which is what Cali will become with most people driving around in a bunch of 15 to 20 year old vehicles. How depressing.
@1vil+175I5xNZ We will see if Tesla is taking off or not at next earnings call. Those carbon credits that have been floatig them for some time are vanishing.
They were first to the trough but as most investors know and most of the world knows now Nikola is a sham.
Difference is Elon got a whole bunch of people to throw money in the hat when it came around.
Europe is on the same path as California. Smarter to be prepared than to lose out on a bunch of markets and play catch up. Also don't know if you guys realized this but Telsa and electric cars are kind of taking off. You can go ahead and bury your heads in the sand but electric cars have a market.
Also, meeting Cali's guidelines doesn't mean you are against the other 49. If Uni #1 wants you to have at least a 3.8 GPA but Uni #2 - #50 want you to have at least a 3.3 GPA and you get a 4.0 GPA you are not suddenly against #2 - #50. You simply met higher standards.
standing with California perhaps Ford doesn't realize they are standing against the other 49 states. Funny how that works.
Because I have family and friends there, I hope California still exists in 2035, but at the rate it is burning and breaking off into the ocean, I would not be locating business or buying property there.
So, Billy Boy Blunder and The 2nd Jim think Ford will have an all eletric line-up that peolpe wnat at a price they can pay AND with conveintent useage (i. e. total to near total battery recharge that can be measured in minutes, not hours and charger stations as ubiqutiuos as gas stations) in California by 2035. Forgetting the fact the state can't even do basica forestry properly or have all the lights on for everyone at the same time, I think this goal is a bit too lofty....as in not gonna happen fpr most people.
Yes, they will ban sales of ICE vehicles, and yes, they may let you use your existing ICE vehicle for a little while lnger ater 2035. Then what? If you can't afford to either buy a BEV vehicle and put up with the issues it entals, then guess what.....you have to move out of Cali, else you will not ave much of a daily existence. Trust me on this folks.....this is what thye want; stuck in huge dystopiian cities with no personal freedom nor personal moment. Best plan for this now, and move to exurban or rural locations now, while you can, and make sure you can subsit by yourself for a long time. The future is coming, and it is not wearing shades - you have a 15 year warning!