Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

Allstate Class Action Lawsuit? Thoughts?

Hear me out for a second. When I was hired back in 2016, like many of you at lower than competitor carrier pay, I was told that by the year 2020-2021 nearly 50% of management would be eligible for retirement with Allstate. "Stick it out and you'll get rewarded." Which the company said would mean a tremendous amount of upward mobility if you proved yourself and stuck it out. This was part of a big push to start doing business differently, which almost meant the implementation of Continuous Improvement and RCPS, along with other learning initiatives.

To me, this was an implied contract. The CEO in late 2019 even wrote an article which was published in the NYT. In which he said, "Let’s create more high-paying jobs and restore faith in capitalism." - Tom Wilson In that same article he went on to promote the importance of 'creating jobs even if it might increase prices.'

What I'm getting at is the fact that the corporation had no intention of back-filling those management roles, no intention of promoting faithful employees and no intention fulfilling it's 'social corporate responsibility' (which was laid out so well in Tom's article).

When Allstate settled a class action lawsuit in California in 2017, what did they do after the settlement? Did they do the right thing and quit the practices that got them sued? Heck no, they revved up the engine with huddle boards and daily micromanagement tracking metrics. They retaliated against the employees and moved every claims office and claims job out of the state of California.

I'm not an attorney. Far from a legal expert. This to me seems like material misrepresentation of fact. Based on the available information, from investor calls, from internal calls and memos. I played the long game, we all played the long game and in the end Allstate ended up reducing expense structures by at least 20-25% per department on average. In the end the numbers could be upwards of 8,000-10,000 employees impacted by the riff.

I think of it like the corporate version of the Marvin Act, which established community property rights for 'common law' marriages. Basically, in essence, Lee Marvin strung along a live-in girl friend and told her 'I'll take care of you no matter what happens to us.' By doing so he created a financial reliance and implied contract with his girl friend. Allstate implied one thing and did the exact opposite of what they have been telling the public and employees for years.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/opinion/business-roundtable.html

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Post ID: @OP+174rS0hS

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In my humble opinion, every employee a a company is one paycheck away from unemployment. Every employee.
When I lost my job in 2016, I changed my lifestyle. I spent money ONLY on essential stuff until I had SIX MONTHS of living expense saved in cash.
This for me was FREEDOM.
As far as chasing the "carrot", mathematically, the higher the status/pay, the lower the probability of me making it.
So, I just do my best each day, and provide an "honest day's work for an honest day's pay". I didn't chase carrots.
The result (paradox), is I have more than doubled my income in 14 years and enjoy my job/life much, much more.
There is absolutely life outside of Allstate.
Prayers and good wishes to all!

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Post ID: @1slx+174rS0hS

Wow. There are some bitter, rude people in this world. Whether you agree with the inquiry or not (if it's burning your soul that badly just ignore the post and keep the snark to yourself). Take a breath and calm waaaaay down. Wouldn't be the worst lawsuit I ever heard of and with the way this train wreck of a layoff was rolled out, I wouldn't be surprised if AllState found a good lawsuit in its hands down the road.

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Post ID: @1lww+174rS0hS

I’m not being mean but you sound like a scorned lover. Just do yourself a favor and move on because this sounds like a complete waste of your time.

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Post ID: @1ual+174rS0hS

Just because management at the time would be "eligible for retirement" doesn't mean they will take it. "Stick it out and you'll get rewarded" can have different interpretations too - like stick it out at your current project or dept or with teams, etc.

Your interpretation of "rewarded" sounds like a promotion and $. Maybe what that person was referring to was just a pat on the back. Unless there is something in writing, your case is not very strong. Seriously, that sounds very petty. You're probably mad at Allstate but move on.

Do the research and you will realize it's not worth it. Even if you do get something out of it, it probably won't be much and you will realize it is not worth the hassle. Also, if word gets out about what you did, no company will want to hire you ever again.

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Post ID: @1xkn+174rS0hS

Hey sports, sure go for it and sue Allstate. Good luck in court champ! Hey keyboard warrior, grow a pair, hire a lawyer, and take sorry carcass to court and sue. Pathetic.

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Post ID: @1pzu+174rS0hS

You’re drawing at straws. Best to spend that creative energy on something productive like finding a new opportunity and thanking your lucky stars that you were laid off now at an earlier point in your career. You’re older and wiser now. Take what you’ve learned and be more selective in your next career move.

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Post ID: @1dnf+174rS0hS

And people think millennials are stupid...

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Post ID: @1ayb+174rS0hS

This will go nowhere.

And on the off chance that it does, only the attorneys really benefit from CA lawsuits.

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Post ID: @mxs+174rS0hS

I joined a class action lawsuit concerning hours worked/no overtime at a different insurance carrier (one of the top 5). I worked there for years. We won the lawsuit. After attorney fees and dividing the award I ended up with $200 (literally) and am no doubt blacklisted and can never get a job there again. There’s really no point.

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Post ID: @mml+174rS0hS

Yes this is complete and utter bollocks. There’s no obligation to keep any employee. Lay offs are inevitable. And they have created a lot of new roles you just aren’t qualified for them.

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Post ID: @xjh+174rS0hS

Implied contract? Are you serious? You’re an at will employee with a company that doesn’t give a sh– about you and you fell for their lies! Move on

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