Typically u can leave it to the engineer to follow up if it is a genuine mistake. But normally the person who make the mistake might shape the incident in another way. Hence the lead engineer comes in. If u are the lead engineer and shape the incident as well. Might as well leave it to the SLS. So it depends on which context u are looking at
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of course you can, and you are supposed to.
EM is a jungle, full of monsters and such.
Hi, what is the role and responsibility of a lead engineer? If my engineer made a significant mistake, can I just leave her to handle the follow ups?
Of course! Anything can blame NMPT they will blame one, why MPT needs to get the blame, job NMPT do, blame will naturally go to NMPT, only credit will goes to who? Our beloved MPT, all the sh-t that NMPT do will help to lifted MPT… to them we are insect, not significant, all they need to do is maintain their KPI that is all…
They will pretend to care for ur wellbeing.. pretend to be interested for your progress… but again u need to do more to get progress, if you over do something goes wrong, you are starting from zero again… for MPT they will be promoted and move to other place… don’t be a m.o.r.o.n.s la.. since when your progress is important to them? What is important is you must do more and give in your best, best is not enough very best, best until u got no time to rest that is the best….
You guys agree or not😂 ？pui farking EM
No matter what
End of the day its still the NMPT the blue collar worker bees are the one to blame the one to be blamed the one gets blamed and get punished
Why....becoz we still dunno how to talk like mgmt act like mgmt
Mgmt are all special breeds experts in talking bullsh-t ocvm lpsa lpo li nli impact bla bla bla until incidents also scared of them lah
Becoz they are all expert in all these bullsh-t useless talk thats why got plenty so much time going around offices and plant to harrass the worker bees with bullsh-t talk and question
Fxxk lah em
When a crane collapses, nobody wants responsibility. NMPT witch hunt is ON!. Find a scapegoat from amongst the men. Hope that someone goes to jail for negligence is from management.
nothing wrong for ES engineers to quit la. They are highly sought after, look at the few experienced engineers who left, they are doing so well. Look at the previous DH, most of them are doing what they do best outside. Good luck everyone, stay safe
Don’t be surprised if more engineers resign.
I saw one section, 80% of engineers are less than 2 years experience. Some are auto promoted to lead without having much experience.
I saw some of ES engineers’ LinkedIn profile, some hold degree (2 years course) from overseas university. I don’t generalise everyone of them is bad. But you can observe their technical skill in the meeting and there are a lot of silly mistakes made by them.
We used to have those professional engineers execute project. Now, what kind of incidents we saw recently in the plant? How many % of reputable university graduates in ES section, may be less than 30%.
When management fails, even MNC company become like local marine shipyard company’s standard, only can hire those third tier draftsman to become engineers.
Woohoo, another ES engr tender
Now 6 month engr is senior engr alre
OP, not only in Singapore we are laying off employees. We are doing it everywhere in the world. And more to come, a lot more.
The curse is on
The curse is real
Better wake up mgmt
Better wake em
May Almighty God protect and bless us the good honest hardworking people at em
Same job same major repair but was given 1 mth time frame the last time
Now the same job same major repair after careful considerations and assessment by Craft request for 2 weeks time frame
Worse mgmt say NO not practical not fast enough 2 weeks too slow
Now the same job major repair is only given 10 farking days to complete and get the farking machine running
And mind you workscope and workload the same but the manpower was heavily reduced and discounted to get the same output and result
This is what is farking happening in farking em
Work life balance care and caring for the people your own employees
Fark you lah em and talk cork
Kena stress and fatigue take MC long2 kau2 lah
You can always stop the work when you feel unsafe.
This is only the first part of the statement. Tbe complete statement is:
You can always stop the work when you feel unsafe, but you have to finish the work on target on time, no matter what. We don't give a fxxk if you are safe, just get the fxxking work done.
Actually this kind of scenario has been happening for quite sometime, they always say can talk to your supervisor about work load high and etc. But if you believe that your FLS and MC are very knowledgeable and they know what is happening on the ground, you can flag out the issue… The problem now with EM is there are too many Mo--ns who are incompetent, then they cannot gauge how long would be need for task… Then they promised higher up and set targets that cannot be achieved… higher up press them they cannot answer because of competency issue… that leads to a lot of rushing works need to be done…
If your MPT are mo--ns, sad to say you only can suck it up.. Even you tried your best to explain and try to be very positive about it, nothing can change, because they cannot answer to their higher up why they even agree to perform this task in the first place…
If whatever I said is rubbish means you are lucky and plz don’t leave that BU.. if whatever I had said resonated with you it means things are going down hill
One of the colleagues accidentally trip an equipment because everyone was rushing her to complete the job before end of the day. To be honest, I don’t really blame her. They always say we can say no if we feel unsafe to continue but we will be regarded as the show stopper if we say so. How?
Do anyone encounter this issue in SCP, as a process technician, when you apply leaves , before your supervisor approves it, he will ask u if there is urgent stuff happen can you come back to work or not???
KNS… is this normal? This is really a world class company behaviour!!! Pui CB Exxon
Let us all show we care very much
Let us care to share make em aware
Act blur we last survive and live longer
You are right, man.
Company doesn't give a fxxk.
You are on your own.
Don't give it a try, especially TA folks, seriously take care.
PAC Asphalt line leak, Lubes Plant Crane topple, what’s next? TA guys, be vigilant. When you see something wrong, don’t care - run first. Company won’t give a damn, they just want to get things done. You have to bear it all. Remember, act blur live longer!
I realise there r a lot of people asking questions rather than providing answers to problems in the company nowadays. Everyone seem clueless or do not hv the expertise to solutions. It eventually comes to a point where problems are left unanswered and swept under the carpet, hoping that it will not recure again during their "tenure" in this role.
This thread is still going?! At this point I'm just here to be part of history. Good luck my Singaporean comrades!
Once you reached your fifties, PIP will be served for your retirement because your are expensive and not as productive as before. Hire you can hire a few youngsters. Definitely knowledge gaps are there but can’t be filled overnight.
omg. So serious, crane toppled? Really very very lucky that there's no fatality. Wells, wonder who is going to take responsibility and accountability of it? Definitely not the bosses luh. Hahahaha
One lao jiao won't be the silver bullet. After all, how long more can one work?
The lack of experienced people (mid layer, upper) is a serious problem and also poor management who seem not to know to even run project or do design themselves. No one can bring the youngsters up, that is even if they survive the PIP or get delusional after a while. The young folks will just keep getting their supervisor's "advice" to check with this and that persons, even for simple stuff.
Good luck with the "direct to low cost country" initiative. Even outside of project organisation, ppl are tired of dealing with it. There's no so-called value generation from it. We lose more actually through opportunity loss. This place is run as if this organisation or industry is ALL about low cost/low knowledge/skill. But knowing the incompetent sg management, they will just grow their parachute and follow whatever came from top.
The very good folks in project that I worked with were gone.
Some are replaced with a bunch of not-so- great engineers or rejects that came back to fill the void or fresh grads. Project design managed to get one very good lao jiao to come back.
No surprise to see mistake, and I'm expecting more to come.
It’s not TA that the crane topple you noob
60 tonnes crane toppled, definitely not a safe turnaround.
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/crane-topples-exxonmobil-lubricant-plant-project-site
Mistakes start to creep in
Evergreen marine gives 63 months bonus in 2022. EM can only afford 3 months even the company has the highest revenue in history.
Pipeline leak at PAC. Massive cleanup and repair operations undertaken. No reporting cos Management has been taking money away from maintenance and those who actually GAVE a shilte. Corrosion doen’t happen overnight.
Ro”lan” you want?
Paradise group give the Rolex watches to employees who had worked for the company for 10 years or more, regardless of position. EM give warning letter and PIP to employees who work for many years. Too expensive to keep them. Fresh hirers are always cheaper.
Big oil leak to Singapore waters. PAC Refinery got big leak which go to sea, why is nobody reporting it?
Why are we covering up our mistakes?
CNA please contact Exxon for comment!
Any safety incident out you go and no question ask… regardless of how many years you worked.
Waiting for Exxon to match your pay with other companies you can dream on… since when they will match our pay? Ever since 2020 after covid, the only thing that I remember they kept saying is SCP is not making money… make me the most Tu Lan is they kept saying it like we operate for workers and charity!!! Pui it is not true.. it is because they kept buying and expanding and kept incurring debts, then during 2020 they tell us they lose money overall… only lan jiao company will do this
Really sh---y place compared to 20 years ago. Now people do things because they are told to do so without knowing the status of the Plant. And they won’t take ‘no’ for answer just so that they can answer to their bosses that it’s been done.
The statement below is legitimate. I am concerned that our starting pay at 4.2K puts us at a disadvantage compared to other industries that pay more, such as other oil and gas companies, banking, consulting or tech. It seems difficult to reconcile this with HR claims that we offer competitive salaries. These circumstances make me question the fairness of salaries for perm employees in Singapore. The research conducted by HR appears to be inadequate at best.
Today Straits Times released fresh grads median starting pay. Across companies as large as Exxon to smaller SMEs, the median starting pay is $4200. So how is HR claiming that we pay competitively? We demand minimum 1st class or 2nd upper graduates but yet pay median salary? That’s like saying we expect to buy a Rolls-Royce Phantom for the price of a Toyota Yaris. Anyone from HR able to shed some light?
I just left EM this year as a technician, although I do not have a job yet and am not that rich stop working my entire life, but now to be honest I am truly happy about my life now… No need to see my Farking phone, no need to worry about kana force to do OT for the farking management that sc--w up badly, no more finger pointing games from management, which in the case management sc--w up become technicians mistake… no need to think of how to cover up my own backside because of incompetence management!!!
hehe, looks like you have never seen what good companies look. There are companies out there treating people with respect.
jump out of your well and you will find a new world, frog.
good luck if you decide to stay back and wish you all the success, but I bet with your narrow mind and low level thinking, you are likely in the Q for being PIP.