Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

At below $40/B, there is no protection for anyone. The company makes no job guarantee, that is why you have no contract and you are an "at-will" employee. Also no need to provide severance to low performers. You can be terminated for any reason. Including new hires.

@evy I don't think the company cares about ccc next year or the year after. If you pull your head out of the sand you would realize that we are in a hiring freeze probably for years and while at the same time going to continue to let people go.

What can you expect when the company is managed by a “manager” rather than a true “leader”.

Exxon will pay dearly for this - most of the folks coming in are hired through college career centers (CCC) and CCCs don't like this tactic. There is a reason why companies do not do this kind of 'cost saving' - good luck to Exxon for getting into CCCs next year, they will be shunned

Generally new hires are ranked with new hires, so it is usually a relative ranking of new hires. Where this is not occurring or there are higher levels in the rank group, they proportionately spread lower CL new hires across the quintiles. Experienced or higher CL is same rank group do not have advantage over new hires, the opposite occurs. Many stagnated experienced workers must compete against the high energy of a new hire who was top of his class and from an elite school. If an MBA from an elite school is not competitive (and highly paid), they want to id this early and counsel them out of the system

What I don’t understand is why XOM isn’t pulling last year’s offers when they’re laying off people with a year out of college

HR policy on new college grads has shifted many times over last 30 years. Prior to merger we ranked with other new hires if they had 6 months. We always given performance feedback, so we had to have some basis for judging whether they were competitive. Rather than a full ranking, we made initial judgments guesses 70, 50 or 30. Regardless, all new hires are "deemed" into a ranking, because a ranking basis is needed to give annual pay raises. But the company always wanted to assess which employees were keepers and which should be thrown back by 5 years service. When I hired were were immediately into a force rank group after 6 months service. HR does not have "policy." They have "practices". Practices change all the time

I can attest that XOM does let go new hires as well. In my group, there's a new guy we hired last year and he was let go. No more "new hire protection". This is true. So fresh grads, re-consider your XOM offers if you're planning to join. You should be extremely bright and be able to show it, otherwise ...

If not PIP'd last year, then you are protected for a year. Yup! God you're even dumber than the 8% being let go. Derp de durrrr. I'll be laughing when you start to flip burgers.

So someone in the ranking system is “protected” the same from termination due to NSI in the same way as someone exempt from ranking for two years? Jesus Christ you’re stupid.

Inability to admit you’re CLEARLY wrong is definitely the reason you’ve already been PIP’d or are worried that a new joiner is going to eat your pathetic lunch.

DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Gonna laugh when you’re in the unemployment line.

3 years employment = 3 years protection derrr derp. Here is your PIP jackass*

Three years employment is not three years protection. DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Here’s your PIP, math major 🤣🤣🤣

@khx

Did you get PIP'd for being this stupid? Let's go back to the scenario. March 2021 is the end of the cycle, feedback has been historically been around August. Assuming someone was let go at that point, that would be may 2018 to August 2021 (or 3 years 3 months of protection from poor performance).

So you’ve admitted in that scenario that you’re not protected for that third year, dummy? Two years protected, you’re ranked and not protected starting third year, id–t. No wonder you’re worried about being PIP’d over a new hire.

@hqm

By your standard, if start may 2018, 1st cycle is 2019. 2nd cycle is 2020. Ranked and potentially let go in 2021.

2021 - 2018 = 3 years. Can you basic math much?

New hires were never protected. Again, get over yourself Bubba.

Just pushing the BS that I was told by not one, but two of my managers. But hey, let’s believe some bitter guy on here trying desperately to push out the last in ... not based on merit ... to save his @$$ because he sees he’s on the chopping block. 🤷🏼‍♂️

If your start date is the day after the cycle starts or the day before it ends, that’s one cycle and 1 year. Then you get a second freebie cycle/year for a total maximum of 2 years.

You should probably dig into your basic arithmetic books, sport.

Just remember, throwing others in front of the bus doesn’t stop the bus.

New hires were never protected....

2 cycles = 3 years of protection... Learn math bud.

And no, we as a company have pushed out and let go new hires prior to the 3rd ranking cycle. You're just pushing a BS narrative.

Recent new hires were supposed to be left out of the ranking process for two cycles ... which is a maximum of two years. Get over yourself pretending that wasn’t a thing ... cheering to pitch the last in shows that you feel you’re in a precarious position and looking to sacrifice others.

New hires have never been protected for 3 years. Get over yourself.

Last in first out is a horrible way to do layoffs, and makes the corporation weaker (if they did that). Maybe it’s justified to lump the new hires in the ranking process this cycle due to the economy ... but make no mistake, it’s a broken promise that will negatively impact many. There are people who gave up benefits at other companies, picked up and moved their lives to be here ... and get cut at less than a year when they were told they weren’t to be ranked?!

They didn’t lay-off all of their new hires though. It s—s for the ones impacted but it makes sense, last in first out.

Who cares?