Thread regarding Gulfstream Aerospace layoffs

This boomer is glad to have his paid 17 week vacay. Know a guy in Flemington. Healthy 55 yo. First sign of COVID was his stroke. Now he's learning how to talk again. I'll hone my golf game, wait for a vaccine then look for a job (maybe). I'm enjoying being out of the never ending stupidity driven fire drills.

We’re 26 trillion in debt and with unfunded liabilities each taxpayer is on the hook for about $1,500,000.00. 23% of that spending is on retirees who were hoodwinked by FDR into believing they were putting social security taxes into an investment account(you weren’t, you were just taxed like anything else. The fact that it was a separate line on your pay stub is meaningless). When boomers started out it took 2 tax payers to prop up one retiree. That equation is six now and maybe 7. In other words boomers are taking out over 3x what they allegedly “put in”. They didn’t keep up their end of the bargain. They didn’t have more kids and they aren’t dying fast enough and they’re k–ling the country with their handouts. I think the average for a retiree these days is about $100K in the bank on retirement day. It was supposed to be a safety net. Not a way of life. That’s OK. I’m barely 40 and my 401K gained more than most retirees have over the past few months. COVID might be the great equalizer though. It might take out the vast majority of our spending. We keep advancing medical technology and life expectancy so nature has to come up with nastier more fool proof ways to k–l us off. Think about it. If the average age was 60, this virus would be a common house cold and we wouldn’t have stopped the world just to save the old financial drags on society.

Hi! Found this thread. You can only do so much for these younger employees. I saw 3 big layoffs staring in the early 2000, followed by 2007, and then Oct 2019. I survived those 3 with no problem. The Covid lay-off changed that. GAC lost an expensive age discrimination suit after the first of the big blood letting I saw in my time there. They cleaned up their act since and are more careful with how they targeted us that they fired, but looking at the ages of my friends those let go, it was pretty clear the expensive 50+ were most expendable. You can tell us we are over the hill boomers, and you may be right. But no one here is getting any younger unless you are dead. Make hay now so when your tap comes, you can retire comfortably.

Principal McVicker (except with boobs)

@"See that’s the problem"- you are absolutely correct with your strategy. I warned my young friends to make their money while they're young and pound their 401k. The tap on the shoulder can happen at any time. Don't waste time trying to second guess the spineless humanoids that make the decisions.

I’m trying to use my kid brain to picture who you are. I’d imagine you’re pretty close to Principal McVicker from Beavis and Butthead.

Ok, boomer.

See that’s the problem with you kids. It’s not “got mine”... it’s “EARNED mine” with my couple decades of 60+ hour weeks at GAC. Do the same before you turn 50 and get kicked to the curb. Otherwise you’ll be screwed when you are RIFed. Not trying to be an a–hole, believe it or not. Just saying your future needs to be secured now while you are young enough and inexpensive enough to survive the RIFs. You will be without an income sooner than you’d like if you stay at GAC.

Y’all are a bunch of “I got mine” generation d—s and tools. Less sh– talking, more actual work.

This 50ish year old GenXer was smart. College tuition paid off, check! Retirement funded, check! House paid off, check! Laid off with nice severance, check! Hope you 35 working stiffs are in my position when you are 15 years down the road. Don’t kid yourself that your day of reckoning isn’t on the horizon. You are NOTHING to GAC but a temporarily useful cog. If you aren’t planing to be shown the door in your mid 50s like we all were, you are deluded.

@Boomers in their 50s and- if you had competitive skills, you wouldn't have to be asking people to get out of your way! mo–n. HAHAHA. "Mom... make the mean people respect me!"

Boomers in their 50s and 60s need to get out of the work force and make room for the kids they raised.

Send your genetic replications back to indoctrination where they belong. Then you can get back to work and wander around the empty cube farms. We're promoting cowardice.

Gulfstream is now run by a bunch of bottom feeding scumb@g losers up and down the chain of command. Weak knee middle management who donated their spine to be in the “club” are merely their disposable pawns to be taken advantage of.

Not all employees are as integrity driven as others. This is a validation of circumstances. More than the previous remote workers are needing this...some are not justified.

I wouldn’t be so quick to assign to malice that which can be explained by stupidity. I know the people coming up with these policies and they are as incompetent as they come. It’s mostly for their own entertainment and for something to point at and say “look at what I did”. Yes, your machines are monitored but they don’t have the manpower to do much with it. They can dig for outliers but I’ve only ever seen them do it once and it was to can people with cause before the October lay-off. And as far as I know they only looked for p–n viewing then.

Long story short, yeah they might dig something up on you if they’re looking to cut headcount.

They shouldn’t have fired us in our 50s with grown kids willing to show up and do the work everyday. Short sighted.

They're adding the busy work to justify keeping group heads and managers.