Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

With span of control issues soon to emerge with the mass amounts of people being let go, there will be managers/supervisors shuffled around and put back into a pool to be assessed more appropriately.

Considering that Exxonmobil’s principle tenet for any supervisory role is that you develop your employees to their fullest potential... any supervisor/manager that had to identify a top 1/3 employee from last year as a bottom 8% this year didn’t do their job?

I would expect any manager that is in that situation should be held accountable.

Performance, accountability, supervisory role. You let one of the company’s best assets rot on the vine for a full year? What were you doing then?

Need to give names.

Bryan Milton was NOT the only Executive forced out. There were at least 10 in one week. Nice packages and paid thru December. Paid vacation...What a nice entry into retirement. Don’t let anyone including HR fool you. The remaining Executives are low life manipulators.

Some of the supervisors will get demoted then it will happen

Becoming a supervisor/manager in XOM is equivalent to getting a tenure for a university professor. Employment for life, no PIP or layoffs for them.

Ironically the ones administering the PIP’s are in many cases the very ones that should be in the PIP themselves. Dead weight administrators that give the occasional presentation to upper management, with the slides prepared by those that got the NSI ranking from them.

This is a fact which has been confirmed by management. Nothing new

@rjg Easy Buttercup... your time is coming too!
It’s dog eat dog now, get you some milkbone underwear

@rjg any proof or is that based on rectal data?

@ijl you are full of sh*t and have zero clue what you are posting. None of the managers who retired were forced. They got a good package and it is not disclosed.

First if someone was PIL then they are not there anymore... you are relieved of your duties as soon as you sigh those papers. Second not everyone tells if they are PIP. Third not everyone will say that retired because they were basically fired... I know of 4 supervisors retired because of this.. it was forced... don’t assume that supervisors were immune to this...

@fjc+16VLC9hz, how do you know there’s an adjustment to lump sum formula coming? I need to stop reading this board, it’s stressing me out!

Forced retirement is not the same as PIP. It's is golden parachute for many , as they say adjustment to lump sum formula is coming. If I could I retire already, take lump sum and keep the medical benefits (which are not the same as when you employed but chepear than open market )

@feu+16VLC9hz - Bryan Milton is the only senior exec forced out. So it seems largely symbolic.... to showcase that people are being held accountable at all levels. But the truth is managers and supervisors at all levels seem to have a level of protection while rank and file employees are being kicked to the curb.
You are seeing the worst in human character being displayed by XOM management.

Usually the trick is they try putting supervisors and managers back to technical/contributor roles first. If they fail as contributors then they might get PIPed. This process takes several years and might span 2-3 assignments. I know at least one ex-manager that was sent back to a technical/advisor role that was then sent to forced retirement.

It’s always been this way....the perks of being the best and brightest out of the best and brightest.

Bryan Milton was NSI'd and forced out to early retirement as he championed GVS and GVS is seen at senior leadership as a failure. This is not completely true. We will see more of these soon.

Supervisors time will come. They are currently surviving by ki5sing a5s to their managers who in turn are as vicious and incompetent to begin with. When the right time comes the higher level will throw these supervisory jrks under the bus as well.

I worked at URC/RTD and most of the supervisors are incompetent - plain and simple. Feel free to argue but it is better to just go find what they are capable of. I have seen many posts here about few who have known to fudge data etc. to get ahead when they had technical roles.

At URC if you were incompetent, you will try really fast to get Recruiting Coordinator, Planner (mere collecting spread sheet data of expenses on weekly and monthly basis and converting it to powerpoint) roles to get close to kis5 as5 of managers. Then since you become visible to managers who reach their positions doing the same and stop doing any technical work you get pulled in team lead and supervisory positions.

Supervisors time will come as any filth requires eventual clean-up. The unfortunate part is that the entire management is unemployable elsewhere. So they are going to cling to their jobs like lee-ches. Some are already paying money to get online management degree so they can find another job "in the future" while still touting their worship for EM management.

Don’t expect to see supervisors and managers on the PIP list. They decide the rankings, and always place themselves at the top. By default, they are the best.

Their position is also that engineers/workers are a dime a dozen. And you can get warm bodies anywhere to do that work. Whether KL or Bangalore or anywhere else.

And that it’s their vision and high-level thinking and planning and strategizing that can’t be out-sourced. So they (the supervisors and managers) are essential, indispensable. That’s always been the case. They truly believe they’re the ones that make the most money and add the most value. Not the folks that do the easy grunt work that anyone can do.

PIPs aren’t over yet. Do you just expect the supervisors to be broadly advertising that they’re on a PIP? Wait until November to draw your conclusions.

What we can know as of now is who is in the PIL category. We have to wait for November to see the full picture.
But it is unlikely to see supervisors there. These positions were always filled by people that have higher management confidence and they are ranked high in any performance system.
May sound unfair but it is self consistent.

Why does this surprise you. When I started the older technical staff was looked at in higher regards then the lower level supervisor/ manager. Threw out the years that has changed and the technical staff has suffered and the bosses (not leaders) has taken more power away from the technical staff. Eventually they will end up gutting everyone except for themselves but then again that’s what happens when you let entitled people who have not put in the work themselves make the decisions.

Seeing as PIP'd employees haven't been let go, for are you coming to this conclusion?

What!?!? That’s not the XOM management I know!