We all know that there is a ton of dead weight management floating around subjecting us to work on completely useless projects to justify their existence and inflated compensation. For funs, let’s post them here and all have a good laugh in solidarity.
I know it’s taboo but the only way to stop the nonsense is to form a union that puts those wasted resources in our pockets instead of making it available for them to hire more blood s—ers who waste our time.
You can’t seem to comprehend that I am not management, never was and never will be. Who on earth would want to manage whiney employees who think you’re screwing them over for MIP and want to form a Union against you?
Lol. “Job hopping” from pathetic company to pathetic company. We see how you feel about the businesses that feed your family and allow you to go into debt on boats and RVs. Welcome to 2020. The days have long since passed where someone “gets on” at the factory and spends their entire lifetime there. Average time spent at a job these days is less than 5 years. Employee turnover can cost a company as much as $250,000 per employee. Given the current generations willingness to leave and the cost of employee turnover to a company, unions are irrelevant.
You should always be training for your next job and always on the lookout to improve your position. Not sitting around whining about bad management and referring to your company as “pathetic”.
Of course that’s what you want us to do. Job hop from one pathetic company to another. I get it, you need your cheap labor to ensure the well connected get their unjustified compensation. Here is the deal though, we are digging in because we see right through the rouse. The money is there as long as we shove planes out the door and there is no way you are doing that without us. You can fantasize that you are making a real contribution but the reality is that you have the easiest job that any monkey can do if given the chance. A great awakening is happening at Gulfstream and you will hear from all of us soon.
Or, you could just go find a better job. A guy as smart, hardworking and talented as you should have no problem finding a place that appreciates your talents and treats you fairly.
No cherry picking needed. I’ve not see a union that was good for anyone except Union leaders taking their cut of paychecks. It’s so awesome to be in a Union, you don’t have a choice at Union shops. I’d have no issue if you and your buddies want to join but a Union infects all the workers and they have no choice. Must be a great thing when the only way to get members is to make them chose their job or a Union.
Gee whiz, anyone can cherry pick the worst examples to support their short sighted anti-union agenda. I know it sounds crazy but many companies get by perfectly fine with a union. The notion that anyone who supports a union is a d—beat is a major insult to the majority of hard working folks that belong to a union. Gulfstream used to be great because they took care of their employees as if they were a union without having to deal with the union stuff. Anyone with their eyes open everyday knows that they dropped that philosophy many years ago and have used every possible excuse to take from us. Now they use any corporate boot licker they can find to run down every stupid rabbit hole at our expense. Gulfstream sold us out long ago and the only recourse we have now is to unionize both trades people and non management support.
You would lose that bet. I’ve been watching unions for nearly 3 decades. Watched them strike theme selves into a 50% pay cut at black and decker. Watched them do a “secret” card check at a telecom company and the bamboozled employees banded together and collectively quit and effectively closed the business to keep the union out. I watched a tool and die shop close its doors the instant a Union was voted in(still sitting empty to this day) and I’ve watched in awe at the uselessness of the Union members at Boeing. And yes, work hard, improve your skills and you will move up. You might have to leave GAC but so be it. Go watch the parking lot tomorrow. Plenty of skilled unappreciated people leaving for greener pastures. Why aren’t you? I’m willing to bet it’s probably because you know you don’t have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a similar gig that lets you show up, convert oxygen to carbon dioxide and leave after 6-7ish hours with a few hour breaks here and there. You want a union to make sure that gravy train keeps rolling until you put in for retirement. I worked at GAC for a decade. I may not know you. But, I know you.
I’d be willing to bet your only experience with the union at Boeing was as an intern. You sound like a naive little kid who still believes the fantasy that the smartest and hardest workers get the promotions. It’s a complete wash except with the union you can walk out of that hole with your dignity intact. Gulfstream has turned into a bunch of bullies who take and take from our mouths with little regard for our livelihood.
The mean widdle union takes significant chunks of your paycheck to fund their corruption(historic and current mob ties are not forgotten). And you can kiss being treated as a person goodbye. You’re now a pawn in contract negotiations and mixed in with the rest of the d—beats. I would never work for a union company and would quit before joining a union. But I have worked along side union employees(namely Boeing) and talk about bare minimum....Unions are great for the mouth breathers and old timers who won’t retire or do much of anything of value.
Let’s assume you are correct (You’re not) and the current situation at GAC could be helped by a union. The issue is THEY NEVER LEAVE. They will be there until your retirement party taking slices of your paycheck and negations on your behalf if you like it or not.
It’s not the 1920s, if you don’t like your job. Quit and find a new one. Employee turnover is a HUGE cost to a company, they’ll do what they need to keep good employees. GAC isn’t sitting in the middle of a talent hub and Savannah isn’t exactly an attractive place to live, there’s no long line for your job. I promise.
Did the mean widdle union hurt your feelwings? Pick your poison. Would you rather have a few bad actors on the labor side or rampant amounts of useless management. Who by the way, are only using you as a pawn to pad their EPR in an attempt to justify their inflated compensation. I’ve worked for unions so I know the deal. They have their time and place and the current Gulfstream situation merits one. Don’t you dare look back several years and realize how many concessions we have had to make without any say in the matter. 100% healthcare, pension, career path, etc
I’ve begged the braintrust here asking for a Union to visit the Boeing board.
Yeah, you don't want the union. Trust me, I've seen it at Boeing. Now, if you were touch labor over there, you were practically untouchable-until you weren't. Those union guys on the floor would cuss an engineer like me up and down for no reason, and get away with it. I could cuss 'em back, no problem, that's what you gotta do. Difference is, I could get fired, they couldn't. When the layoffs came, there probably was a level of protection for them, but nowadays, not so much with the mass layoffs and production slowdown. The union sh-t is only for touch labor. Anything else, they are worthless. And, as I said, the union empowers the us vs. them culture, which already exists in full force at Gulfscream.
The entire HR organization outside of the 3 people needed to coordinate hiring and payroll. Oh and the most useless project ever done by Gulfstream, the management r—dation program.
As a previous GAC employee, a disabled veteran, union member, and federal employee; unions can be and usually are worthless. Especially if an employee works hard and plays well with others, a union is pointless. However, a place like GAC doesn’t need a union to do much else except fire back at management. Sometimes you need a bulldog to speak for you, and sometimes the bulldog is a union. I don’t like paying dues, or going to meetings, but when MGMT does dumb things, like during the pandemic, it’s nice to have a vicious rabid dog snarling at them.
Metadata analysis to find problem and disloyal employees. AKA anyone not drinking the mismanagement kool aid, talking union, or working on getting the heck outta here.
Baby G500 and upgraded G650. The market doesn’t need these but we got a bunch of managers with important sounding titles and unjustified compensation so let’s waste precious resources down this rabbit hole. Never mind current projects, we’ll cross our fingers and hope for the best. Besides, we have the playbook from the G650 crash so we’ll know how to cover our butts if we drop the ball again.
What about when everyone had to put in so many lean ideas a month. 10 people would put in that they all saved 5 minutes a week by not wiping or washing their hands after taking a dump. Also don’t forget about the desk diagrams for office workers. Over here is where my stapler goes and over there is where I keep my emergency resignation letter. It would be funny if it all wasn’t so pathetic.
Logo redesign.
Mine was my managers asking me to order all the parts for retrofit aircraft and letting them sit around unsecured so they would get stolen by other teams and damaged. It was a stroke of pure genius.
Completely useless projects? Union shills who don’t work at Gulfstream spamming a layoff board to try to unionize GAC I order to line their own pockets. Go to a liberal state where you can grift much easier. Run along now.