Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Contractors

There are a number of contractors who have been around for years. They are very well paid and are performing work that could be done by employees. They are working under something called “statement of work”. They should be released immediately. If we are so broke they should be the first to go.

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Post ID: @OP+1615pZfR

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I agree. I was a contractor to T for 7 years. I took a big pay cut to get hired. Lots of contractors make out very good. But the downside is you pay for your benefits out of pocket. They are very expensive. I had no spouse to pick up the costs. Health/Dental insurance is you worst enemy as a contractor. Also you can be let go at anytime in a days notice.

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Post ID: @6rdm+1615pZfR

I have seen incredible contractors on our team who are just as strong (some stronger) than the employees. They lack benefits and stability but work just as hard... It’s pretty messed up..

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Post ID: @5plw+1615pZfR

Contractors without many benefits and lack of full information try to work hard and deliver. many employees with full access to many resources, trainings and good pay still keep complaining. Work for a contracting company for an year or so then u will see how they are treated and then u will realize T is much better. So I actually feel many employees should be kicked as many contractors are better.

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Post ID: @1oea+1615pZfR

Why you talk about me? I work. I get paid.

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Post ID: @whq+1615pZfR

I suspect that any future contractors or more specifically contracting companies will have even tighter budgets . Don't Forget its not the individual contractor, its the contracting company that signed the deal with ATT that has to work within the budgetary constraints of that contract. So most contracting jobs will be sh–, because the way it works , some contracting company executive or sales guy promises ATT something at half-the price and then goes out and finds poor peasant contracting souls to do the work , so while they may pay the contractor say $30/hr , they pocket $20 or more for the contracting company.. Everyone who DOESN'T actually do the work makes out like a bandit.

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Post ID: @byo+1615pZfR

I was a contractor for T prior to being hired by T. Trust me. The contractors I know are not paid low. I took a cut in pay to be hired. My contract was through a company that offered medical and a 401k. I wanted to be rehired to bridge my prior service. But to be clear, some contractors are knocking down some serious hourly rates.

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Post ID: @mcr+1615pZfR

How anybody could go back to the cesspool as a contractor is beyond me. But they should be the first to go like op said. But why have full time employees when you could have the same people as contractors with zero benefits.

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Post ID: @ebw+1615pZfR

: @OP+1615pZfR Several of my co-workers are contractors, some are ex-AT&T employees. They aren't paid that much money & never know from one day the next if they'll have a job. No vacation, holidays or sick time. And some work harder than the employees do. Not fair to judge all of them in the light that you do.

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Post ID: @oii+1615pZfR

On day you might end up being a contractor. In reality, they get paid less because they get no holiday/sick pay/PTO, no 401K and no health or c-appy health benefits. Plus, you have no idea if your going to have a job in 6 months on every contact. And the way people treat you? It is just awful! Oh, and no one will hire you full time because they think you’re lazy and will only give you short term very work intensive contracts. It’s not easy supporting a family as a contractor. Imagine having a kid who has attended 7 different schools in 5 years? Yes 7? Imagine having to constantly move, enter a new lease, break a lease and enter another one without any relocation fees what so ever! Imagine paying a mortgage too and not being able to save for retirement on top of that. Being a contractor s—s unless you are single with plenty of money of in the bank. You people who have full time jobs with benefits have literally no clue how truly horrible it is.

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Post ID: @lnr+1615pZfR

What I have seen of contractors boring under major streets and running fiber underground down easements with specialized boring equipment, no att employee would do that. The att employee comes by and observes from his air conditioned truck. This is in Houston, Tx. Plus contractors ran the aerial fiber in my neighborhood thru trees, grunt work no att union employee would do now a days. I worked at Southwestern Bell way back in the 60's and 70's and there were construction line crews that ran aerial copper, but contractors pulled the undergound cable in manholes, placed it for splicers.

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Post ID: @pzy+1615pZfR

Well now we are talking about the union , and how little they get involved in the everyday nuts and bolts that effect their members ! It would be nice if all the union guys did something other then hide from work and us dues paying members ! The steward in my yard does 4 to 9 jobs a month . Techs do that much in 3 days .The steward pretends he is doing union work on all the other days, buts hes not ! I know what he does but Iam not going to call him out here . The union was mad when we voted NO on the contract 4 years ago, they resubmitted it to a vote 2 weeks later with a solid recommendation to vote YES !, the only thing that had changed was that management had offered the union guys 4 more days off paid for " union activity " ! Our brothers in the union s— !

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Post ID: @vgs+1615pZfR

Not the ones I know.

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Post ID: @iri+1615pZfR

why releasing them? they are overall much cheaper whine less... somerhing AT&T loves.

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