Thread regarding Gulfstream Aerospace layoffs

If I set up an anonymous drop box would anyone here have info to share to bring down the people behind this debacle?

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Post ID: @OP+14Uu8ev3

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Remnant- you guys had better unionize while there's still a chance. I never supported that... until now. Saw really hard working contributors let go.

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Post ID: @4cad+14Uu8ev3

Hi...saw this thread and thought I’d chime in. I was an E9 too. Great productivity and contribution to my department if I put any stock in my reviews. My salary and my age is why I suspect I was a target. E9s beware.

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Post ID: @3uua+14Uu8ev3

To the guy whose post is below mine here. You really are out of touch, aren't you? You some snot nosed 30 year old low enough on the payscale to skate through this time? Who do you think is hiring right now? The other companies who used the cover of the pandemic to discriminate against those of us in our 50's? I never expected to retire from GAC, but since I beat my entire department including my boss in the office every morning by more than 2 hours, and was just about always the last to leave cleaning up the messes of sh–tttttyyy suppliers, I expected to not be treated like a criminal at the end. I still don't have the photos of my kids back!

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Post ID: @3tif+14Uu8ev3

Additionally if you’re not coming into work and preparing yourself both professionally and financially like today is your last day then you probably deserved the RIF. Especially if you’ve been here for any amount of time and have seen the theatrics. GAC doesn’t owe you sh–. Everything they owe you hits your accounts on Friday. You guys are all on here b–ching and moaning, talking about secret drop boxes, lawsuits, recording conversations, employment lawyers, unions and other things they could have done to keep you on the gravy train. You wouldn’t be doing any of that if you were marketable, had a nice emergency fund and could just take the nice severance move on. But if course if you had done all that, you’d probably still be at work at GAC today.

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Post ID: @3iih+14Uu8ev3

Not the OP, but to the person who wrote "OP, move on to your next adventure.", you will feel different when it's your turn or someone you care about. Keep drinking the kool aid. GAC used to get rid of low performers. Now they focus on costs and that means they often get rid of people who were doing a great job. You sound young and new to the working world or maybe just naive. Keep assuming life is fair and those that have bad things happen to them deserve it. If only it worked like that. As for GAC, they get more bold each time they do a layoff using highly questionable criteria. In the political world that call it "dog whistle" words. They will keep going until someone checks them. To those affected, best of luck in your endeavors and future.

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Post ID: @3qbt+14Uu8ev3

OP, move on to your next adventure.

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Post ID: @3xtr+14Uu8ev3

OP here. Im setting up an anonymous email account. I'll get it to this thread after we receive our severance info, hopefully on Friday. I am thinking we can share info to help us get a fair shake in this process.

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Post ID: @1vxe+14Uu8ev3

we should definitely fight for the WARN act bs. Travel restrictions were in plan since early march, they knew they were not going to be able to deliver the airplanes, and yet they fired us all with 1 day warning?

Also, https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GD/cash-flow?p=GD please take a look at GD "cash flow per quarter". 449,000,000$ worth of stock buy back this quarter, 4 times more than last year! and a 5 billions dollars loan.

But, i quote : "Phebe N. Novakovic – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So I think you're quite right to point out the little concerns, the concerns within the policy arena about stock buybacks. But from my perspective, in periods of great uncertainty and volatility, maintaining your liquidity and the strength of your balance sheet is key. So we're going to stand pat on stock repurchases at the moment."

Sure thing to stop doing buyback after a massive purchase in just one quarter, while firing 25% of GAC. Beautiful corporate america move.

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Post ID: @1ftc+14Uu8ev3

One more thing. If an independent government agency reached out to me, I would provide every single detail to corroborate the posts but only to a government agency rep.

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Post ID: @1yol+14Uu8ev3

PS. I'm an onlooker to the three people in post below, not involved and can give witness that the scenarios REALLY happened. Chin drop. Yes.

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Post ID: @1zaa+14Uu8ev3

I can attest (as could an outside oversight agency like ohhh Department of Labor...) that at least 3 persons RIF'd were either in the "discrimination-filing with HR" or regulatory complainants who were outspoken.  As for the first, this person's manager resigned a brief time after the racial discrimination complaint.  Do I need to elaborate on which employee was which race?  After manager resigned the employee was transferred to another team and then boom, would you be surprised that said employee was RIF'd?  Outside independent review would verify these truths.  All three of the employees above should have been in the 4-5 range in every category below BUT they were people who utilized HR.  Those are facts. An independent agency review could confirm.

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Post ID: @1kkf+14Uu8ev3

yes

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Post ID: @1mwq+14Uu8ev3

This rif and the one last Oct. had an obvious bias in regards to age. Any xxx.gov is in their back pocket.

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Post ID: @jll+14Uu8ev3

The WARN act doesn't apply because they didn't get rid of more than 50 people at any one location.

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Post ID: @omg+14Uu8ev3

To the poster below. Need one more piece of evidence that this was a planned reorganization using criteria crafted to lose guys over 50, and not some unforeseen event due to the pandemic. Should have had sufficient notice under WARN if this was a reorganization. That was not done and as such, those of us kicked to the curb need that info in negotiating severance. If they used the pandemic to slip a mass lay-off through that through that was planned all along that’s despicable. If anyone wants to help us out, just say yes here and I have a way to set up anonymous reporting.

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Post ID: @boi+14Uu8ev3

Nice thought but what will it accomplish ?

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Post ID: @dcn+14Uu8ev3

Sure, I’m in!

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