Thread regarding Gulfstream Aerospace layoffs

Is GAC trying to hide WARN violation ? Is there anything we can do ?

So based on the information, it seems GAC did trigger the WARN act. "Specifically, the WARN Act provides an exemption to the 60-day notice requirement where the plant closing or mass layoff is caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time notice would have been required."

Is there anything that can be done against that? Essentially, they are just playing dumb and said they were not seeing the situation going bad. Is it "fightable" with an attorney ? How much would it cost? Anybody has experience with that?

Really lame to treat us like that.

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I am using Buckley-Beale law firm in Atlanta to review all documents. Based upon what the package is, they have agreed to negotiate for more. The advice they gave was to examine the number of employees over the age of 40 (I'm over 40), as there may be age discrimination. They also have a division looking into a class action suit based upon violating warn act. They only way GAC is going to avoid problems is to have a severance package too good to refuse. Don't do this without a lawyer.

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Post ID: @1qvh+14NKykqY

The WARN ACT still applies in this situation. It is there to protect workers like us. Most state offices are still open. Contact your department of labor, file a complaint and keep all records. Some say leave it be but all of us put in our time, effort and hard work for this company only to be given 24 hrs notice and a big middle finger.

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Post ID: @1chy+14NKykqY

It gets better. Apparently we can't get our belongings until May 15.

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Post ID: @1prw+14NKykqY

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/the-warn-act-top-coronavirus-questions-answered-by-lawyers

this is a mighty interesting read

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Post ID: @1xsr+14NKykqY

Gulfstream doesn't would anymore bad press nor does GD so take them to court. It's time we stand up against big business and leadership including bad management that will still get a fat bonus.

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Post ID: @1tdn+14NKykqY

OP here. Yes it seems GAC is doing whatever it takes to avoid the 2 months extra. It’s a huge thing for most people... sad how they word things to avoid paying people.

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Post ID: @1jjp+14NKykqY

Look close at the letter they wrote to the GA dept of Labor on WTOC. Looks like they are setting up to bypass WARN act with with the “unforeseeable business circumstance” exemption in the WARN act.

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Post ID: @xbw+14NKykqY

The way they’ve done it before is they pay everyone at a minimum 60 days severance – due to the WARN act. If your specific severance package is worth more than 60 days pay, your TOTAL severance package would be what the corporate policy states.

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Post ID: @xmc+14NKykqY

My (admittedly limited) understanding of the WARN Act is that it just means they have to give you 60 days notice, if possible, or pay you for 60 days if not. My question is is the WARN money in addition to severance, or does it overlap. Like, if you would normally get 2 months severance, will the WARN act give you 4 months?

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Post ID: @lvg+14NKykqY

Not related to the WARN act, but perhaps an insight to previous success with this sort of thing:

https://www.clearinghouse.net/chDocs/public/EE-GA-0036-0001.pdf

https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/gulfstream-aerospace-pay-21-million-age-bias-eeoc-settlement

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Post ID: @gld+14NKykqY

Don't waste your time or energy … sign your separation agreement, get your money and move on. Those who are on this site talking about suing are going to lose. Sad to say but GAC employees aren't the only ones impacted by the unforeseeable circumstances of the virus ... and yes, I would say any employer would be exempt from WARN given these unprecedented times. Terribly run company - yes! Terrible management - yes! Great employees who were impacted - yes! However, the idea that anyone will win a lawsuit given the situation is putting energy where it shouldn't be.

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