Wow! This Forbes article is a really eye opening view of management - https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherwalton/2020/02/11/macys-decision-to-close-sf-office-is-the-scary-last-nail-in-its-own-coffin/#322e66b13a94
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And I disagree with the statement regarding “terrible at educating enough sw engineers”. The bigger issue is the abuse of the H1 which is meant for talent that can’t be found. The talent is here but not willing to take the lower compensation. The H1 process does cost but the workers are willing to take less as the ability to work in the US and work towards citizenship has a value the employer doesn’t pay. End H1 and watch the education system change to meet demand.
And I disagree with the statement regarding “terrible at educating enough sw engineers”. The bigger issue is the abuse of the H1 which is meant for talent that can’t be found. The talent is here but not willing to take the lower compensation. The H1 process does cost but the workers are willing to take less as the ability to work in the US and work towards citizenship has a value the employer doesn’t pay. End H1 and watch the education system change to meet demand.
For StopAlternativeFacts: You are correct. Visa holders and contractors are in many, if not all, large enterprises. In some cases, however, they take full control. The workplace is no longer an "American" workplace. Quality and innovation stop. Mediocre work is everywhere. Quick and Dirty. Unethical, in some cases. In the last years, Macy's has been often on the news for site and store issues. Someone gotta be blamed!
At least in Atlanta, Macy's Tech has a bad reputation among quality "all-American " developers. It is an H1-B mill. I believe the same was SF.
@Quality Developer: Did you even read the article??? And actually there are (were) quite a large number of talented people at SF Macys.com. I don't know what you're basing these statements on. There was a normal turnover of talent there, many of whom went on to first-class firms like Apple, Microsoft & Google. And, unfortunately, in case you haven't noticed, visa holders and contractors are a fact of life at all firms in the US, since we are terrible at educating enough numbers of software engineers in the US to meet demand.
Actually, the choice of closing SF makes sense for a number of reasons.
1) There is no needed to be in SF to run a traditional e-commerce operation;
2) Atlanta is a huge "cheaper" Tech hub;
3) Macy's Tech in SF was filled with visa holders, contractors, average/mediocre "overseas" developers, managers and directors. All-American talented engineers in the Bay area would not work there anyway.
I agree Polaris is just a fancy word slapped on old worn out ideas that won’t work anymore. It’s like calling management “ people leaders” you now stripped them of their true title which says. No more managers coming soon to Macy’s. Macy’s has a way to reword things to make it look like their doing something amazing. “ growth stores “ aka stores we will keep. “ people leaders “ aka managers gone soon. “ backstage “. C-appy returns. “Story” dollar store junk