Thread regarding Seagate Technology Inc. layoffs

Hard disk drives will disappear from your data centre – unless you work for a hyperscaler

Good read and what we are seeing in the market. Of course very different from all hands meeting propaganda.

https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/02/07/hard-disks-disappear-small-data-centres/

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Under Chinese ownership? LOL TRUMP will never allow that. Seagate will become a cold storage company much like tape manufacturers that companies STILL use today.

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Post ID: @7yxt+13pyjOIE

I'm fully anticipating getting laid off in 2 years time. You should too. There is no technology no that can reduce HDD cost per GB. HAMR will likely increase it if anything. HDD cost per GB is going to flat line or increase, while SSD cost per GB already has a roadmap to decline dramatically from here. Sure, Seagate may carry on as a small niche legacy commodity storage company as a footnote for many years to come likely under Chinese ownership.

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Post ID: @6nyb+13pyjOIE

Like 7gb will need to be stored every day fulfilling the dream of an 80tb in every car. The insights from data will be aggregated and sent to the cloud. At a 5x price difference, SSD will be bought all day long over HDD. Between the sound of the hdd, heat, power, etc it is not much of a price premium. A tesla will probably get an extra 10 miles per charge with a SSD over HDD.

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Post ID: @6ziu+13pyjOIE

One Tesla uploads 7GBs per hour of driving. Scale that with SSDs.

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Post ID: @6bpl+13pyjOIE

I never got how driverless cars were a growth market for hard drives. Just the environmental factors would scream for ssds. Sure they talk about petabyte growth in storage but seriously?

Luczo p–pooed the sandisk acquisitionas too much debt. But it's generating revenue and raw materials for growth. And we're left begging for substrate.

It's too late to switch from hamr. It works or we're dead. We barely have a pulse now.

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Post ID: @5zek+13pyjOIE

Sounds like you're starting to realize why going to all hands meetings is a waste of time

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Post ID: @2bck+13pyjOIE

How is it possible that the market provides all of these signs of HDD demise and we keep getting the internal messaging that HDD will be around forever and have high growth.

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Post ID: @2lvl+13pyjOIE

If you go to AWS or Azure, the default storage for application is already SSD.

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Post ID: @1sfk+13pyjOIE

Good article. All true. But how about HAMR in my laptop, 4k movies stored on my tablet, the Edge, IT 4.0, rugged hard drives, driverless cars, blah, blah

Signoretti argues that “all the added complexity will make hard disk drives unpractical for small organisations without enough data to store in them (and we will easily pass the 1PB mark in this case). Think about that: 1PB equals 20 hard drives, with parity and spare drives it will be 24. It provides you throughput, but very few IOPS and the risk of data loss is high due to rebuilding times. Good luck with that!”

He concludes: “Hard disk will disappear from your data centre if you don’t need several petabytes of cold storage installed locally on your premises… The all-flash data centre will become a reality, and you will store more and more of your cold data in the cloud.”

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Post ID: @wtl+13pyjOIE

Did you catch the last bit. Let me paraphrase. Cloud SSD adoption is only 2 years away. 5x premium is the key level and we are down to 8x now. That’s the END of Seagate folks when that happens. Train hard and save your money now.

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