No question about it as the stock continues its lackluster performance.
Most of the lead sales organization is leaving Oracle in droves due to poor compensation, horrendous leadership and an ever increasing educated client. Oracle is paying the price for its lack of investment in its customers, people and culture. Cloud sales are at their lowest in years and Oracle leadership can no longer hide it. Chris Denato (SVP Oracle Sales) and all of its leadership so painfully disconnected from the field and customers that 2020 sales are sure to be the worst in year.
The old guard needs to go. Fire Denato. Fire them all and get Kurian back...
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Couldn't happen to a more Greedy LE and his poor Leadership teams..... ROTFLMAO
Correct, TK doesn't lead engineering at Google. That is done by Urs who is a longtime Googler. And in fact sales is led by Rob Enslin who is former SAP.
TK is good at sales, not development. He was horrible at leading development. He actually came from a marketing background. (What he called "PM". HAHAHAHA) He had no business trying to lead a dev org, he was hopelessly lost. And we will be stuck cleaning up his mess for years. Seems like Google knows how to use him correctly. Keep him out in front of customers and the hell away from engineering! Good for them.
My point on the Kurian thing was, why would he choose to come back to Oracle? He's leading the #3 cloud player.
This is a really good point. Kurian is gone. Right now he's thinking "Eat my dust, LE".
My point on the Kurian thing was, why would he choose to come back to Oracle? He's leading the #3 cloud player.
Okay to the Kurian thing as I am naive to his previous efforts. I suppose its difficult to know who is actually driving the Oracle bus into the ground.
To the previous post...yes, I was affected by the recent RIF and noticed on Oracle's separation package that the majority of people who were let go were obviously higher paid and more experience.
It seems Donato and team will indoctrinate the young minds to order to adapt to the toxic culture at Oracle. Very sad.
You dont want Kurian to be back fosho! that's where the consulting went downward spiral he hired people of his calibre, incompetent, pretending to be a knowhow and yells at employees on meetings when he gets cornered..such a loser :>(
Lol why would Kurian come back?
Seems like you too were affected by the recent RIF that concluded on Jan 31st. Came as a blow out of no where. And Donato & Tom Henry's solution for this is to hire more freshers from tier 2 colleges to sell enterprise software rather than invest in better experienced personnel.
"get the Kurian back"???
You had me until "get the Kurian back". He was as much an arsehole as the rest of our glorious "leadership" although his new gig may prove that he simply needed some adult supervision.
Kurian's not coming back. LE screwed him over. I expect google may very well succeed where Oracle failed. I think the failure in on LE.
the number of hires in APAC that are over paid is shocking! no wonder they are struggling. Getting paid a huge salary in Singapore when they live else where...
Whatever LE was busy with 2010 to 2018 it left the rats to play while cat was away and it is unrecoverable. If he knows that dunno. Ozymandias got bored and wanted to be young.