Thread regarding Optum layoffs

I can say I agree 1000000 times about the difference between most offshore from India workers I have worked with over the last 15 years. I am not sure what education they receive with the master degrees they have but they cannot do the next step without handover hand assistance. They do not trouble shoot issues very well, perhaps it is a lack of experience through various technology changes we have had in the US. They do not do anything not listed on a project plan (for example on a date field no validation related to other input or even something as simple as must be greater than a receive date) nor do they raise issues they come across. Don't even get me started about them creating any etl processes...so basically given a choice, I would likely choose someone from many other countries over someone from India given my experience. I am sure their are many bright talented people as well, I just rarely experience them on any project I have been involved with.

We need an union, specially for IT folks, otherwise we have no say on executive pay, off-shore strategy, and life-work balance. In the 1950s, a typical CEO made 20 times the salary of his or her average worker, now S&P 500 CEO makes around 400 times on average; the off-shore and H1B workers are at all time high in IT due to corporate greed. American citizens are of a very small minority group, just look around in Optum IT buildings. Culture is changing as well, Work-life balance is a thing in the past, it is very difficult to find a good leader that value that and lift employee up within the company anymore. Working long hours and weekends seems to be expected by many "bosses" at different levels. It is just a sad situation.

Offshore people will do the work (badly) and more and more automation. While we want the company to work for to care about us, about our members, they don't. All they care about is making more and more money. It's never enough money for them. They can double or triple their profits over a short period of time, and it will never be enough. Top executives make millions. Get rid of one of them and how many jobs might that save?

India and Pakistan are always rattling sabers and both have compulsory military service. Not trying to be dark but any threat of conflict in the region will grind UHG and US insurance to a halt.

Agreed 100%. Labor in India is super cheap so as long as the CEO makes money and shareholders are happy they don’t care one bit about their employees. They low ball your salary and over work you to death.

I hope Sir Andrew brought marshmallows to roast over the dumpster fire he's built for 2020. OGS can barely figure out how to use Visio let's see how well they handle everything without US employees to bail them out.

Executive leadership also has no idea how utterly useless offshore help is. Minimal skillsets, but no ability to think outside the box and solve problems. Furthermore they cut the stock purchase program to 10% off and not the 15% off the beginning or end purchase period in order to cut costs.

All that matters is that the CEO can get another multimillion dollar bonus and the shareholders are happy. They don’t give a f— about the people they’re laying off right before the holidays.

Apparently offshore folks who get paid 7K a year p instead of our 50k and they don’t respond to IMs for two hours. And apparently robots will replace RNs and behavioral clinicians. Lord help us! What a mess. But robots and offshore are cheaper but they don’t seem reliable. Maybe they will replace offshore with robots eventually as well??