Thread regarding Gulfstream Aerospace layoffs

Actions to take

If only Gulfstream executives were reading... Here is what we need to do in this company:

  • Stop adding new processes: There is a trend in this company to add new processes or new tools to improve stuff, while instead, they should fix the underlying reasons of the problems. We get 6s lean sharepoint, blablabla but it just adds more complexity to problems.
  • Stop adding management.: There are departments with more leadership positions than action takers.
  • Stop useless meeting: why doing meeting when no action has been taken ? Stop this waste of time and go do the job.
  • Keep productive people. Fire the ticks: There are some people just spending time at Gulfstream. Clocking in and out. Get them out. And typically, they are people that brings the moral down by gossiping. OUT.
  • Communication: Talk about successes and failures. Mark Burns talks about headwinds during the all-hands then moves on to diversity and inclusion. Instead, talk about the action that will have to be taken with the headwinds. There will be no inclusion since you'll have to fire people anyway.
  • Stop reinventing the wheel: There are actual professional outside the company for training and other things. Stop creating something inside the company. Bring the expert and get people trained. Stop acting like we are in a silo.

All this messed up layoff would not happen if we had fined processes right off the bat.

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Post ID: @OP+11fkhbGk

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Right on. Too bad a certain director of project engineering is the exact opposite of everything you lay out. And he’s in charge!

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Post ID: @8ghz+11fkhbGk

Silos everywhere, in and between departments.

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Post ID: @7zqy+11fkhbGk

This conversation is cute but Gulfstream has gone too far in the wrong direction to go back now. They brought in all the corporate stooges and their hair brain concepts. HR is now a wasteful monstrosity who creates the illusion of adding value when in reality they are driving the company into mediocrity. Add to that the completely unnecessary expansion of management who are brainwashed in corporate "leadership" training and you have the mess you see today.

If you are a person who does a value added to the customer job, you need to accept the writing on the wall. Gulfstream leadership has taken things over the cliff and there is no going back. From this time forward, it is you against the management & HR machine. The only recourse is to form a union that spells out the terms of your employment and protects you from them. It shouldn't have to be this way but this is the course that Gulfstream leadership has chosen to take. They are banking on the workforce resisting unionization so they can take more and more from you and your families for their personal prosperity. It really is US vs. them.

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Post ID: @5zqg+11fkhbGk

Our department is composed of a director who only cares to hear himself talk and one-up any employee beneath him, but brown nose anyone above. The next tier beneath him are for some reason two managers. Their is one spineless and clueless individual who promotes id–ts because he is afraid of confrontation and the second, a complete redundance. In fact only in our department because the director hid him from the last RIF, but he does bring breakfast. It only gets worse from here. Our engineering department is suffering greatly.

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Post ID: @3gfn+11fkhbGk

BT our computers s— slow... You s— over paid people.. CIO MUST GO... We need tools that work..

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Post ID: @1adt+11fkhbGk

really good post about the real issues at GAC. some people are useless to the company but get very good paid only because they are good friends of some decision makers.

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Post ID: @1aar+11fkhbGk

"WTF? What's the use of all that layer of management ?"

Our group's problem was getting the lead to listen, let alone care about the things we needed to get our job done. We all just gave up going to our lead because it always ended up in an argument with him making assurtions about stuff they didnt know anything about. We all wanted our lead to know about what we were doing, but this person was more focused on throwing stuff we used away. Im not talking about old used tools that someone is holding onto either.

I saw so much money thrown away because of ignorance while working here. Literally 20k worth of "supplies" that was thrown away because our lead didnt bother doing any research before placing the order. If that weren't bad enough, the effort was submitted for an award right after learning it didnt work. That isnt even the beginning of the waste either.

The manipulation in narriative, the lack of accountability, the promotion of incopetience. When i went through onboard training, this company appeared ideal. It looked like they had everything together. A majority of the people do too, but there are some really bad actors bringing it down.

How do you change a work culture? Its a really difficult thing to do. The only way ive ever seen it done is 100% removal of the people who want to bring the environment down and resist change.

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Post ID: @1nsa+11fkhbGk

First and foremost,

The GAC leadership team must be replaced.

These people do not even get along with each other. Why do you think it would be any better at our level

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Post ID: @1exy+11fkhbGk

We have a useless director, followed by 2 managers, 4 ops/group head managers, then 6 leads. Yet nothing gets done. And mechanics talk directly to engineers, while bypassing the leads. WTF? What's the use of all that layer of management ?

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Post ID: @ovr+11fkhbGk

Agree with you.
Our department structure:
Director
Sr. Manager
3 Mangers
6 Worker Bees

Seems a little top heavy.

I also know of a Director and Sr. Manager with zero reports.

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Post ID: @jww+11fkhbGk

This is an awesome post.

I know that at least two directors are reading this board. One of them is a close friend, she noted that she was told about the site by a VP.

Go figure...

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Post ID: @xsd+11fkhbGk

Could not agree more.

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