Thread regarding Windstream Corp. layoffs

Agent objects to its termination by Windstream; anybody know them?

Windstream has been terminating 100s of sales agents, marketing partners, etc. by rejecting the contracts it has with them. (Bankruptcy law provides for bankrupt entities to reject contracts that are “executors”).

HAM Communications has filed an objection saying their contract does not meet the legal requirements to be considered “executory”. They have a customer they handle for Windstream that does $3 million with Windstream. HAM is saying Windstream is stiffing them

Furthermore, HAM wasn’t paid for work after Windstream filed and before Windstream filed to reject the contract — that’s a no-brainer legal obligation for Windstream.

HAM was smart enough to get a top law firm, Allston & Byrd, to represent them. Almost all of Windstream’s other partners and small vendors have (so far) either faded quietly into the night or hired local ambulance chasers.

This is worth watching - I wonder if this will lead to others following this path.

http://www.kccllc.net/windstream/document/1922312190814000000000015

Does anyone here know these guys or what they do?

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Agent sales used to make up 50% of the CLEC sales at one time. They sign on to contracts to install X number of T-1's, POTS, ETC. per month or year. Now that the Copper / TDM market is drying up there is less to sell. Like our contracts with UNIT they just don't make sense anymore. We are throwing away cash to these agents and not retaining the revenue.

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Post ID: @4crl+10ylCE5D

Payment has been spotty to multiple suppliers and contractors. Entirely possible it’s just our “business as usual “ ineptitude and not related to bankruptcy though honestly.

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Post ID: @3ora+10ylCE5D

What do these agents do? What happens if we just dump all of them?

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Post ID: @2hlb+10ylCE5D

”not sure where you get your info, but vendors are chugging right along with any issues”

Under the bankruptcy process, there’s special money set aside to pay current vendors promptly for stuff ordered after the bankruptcy filing day. Otherwise Windstream couldn’t keep going and everybody would lose.

The original poster was writing about sales agents, not suppliers - many are getting terminated but now there’s a question about whether Windstream is doing it the right way under bankruptcy rules.

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Post ID: @2kcn+10ylCE5D

Hmmmm....i worked with 4 vendors last week....hvac, lawn maint, roofer, and fiber splicers .....not sure where you get your info, but vendors are chugging right along with any issues

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Post ID: @2jix+10ylCE5D

Windstream stopped paying their vendors a long time ago. 3rd party vendors are no longer doing preventative maintenance on their generators, UPS(s), HVAC systems, etc. i left just over a year ago and we couldnt get an hvac vendor onsite to make much needed repairs and none of our vendors would take POs for fiber, coax, BNCs, SFPs, etc.....I left and have not looked back. I just still have shares from the 401k match so I check in. I am rooting for Windstream to succeed, but it does not look good

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Post ID: @2nof+10ylCE5D

The significance:

HAM’s claims may open the door for many other reps to say the same thing — if HAM is successful, which I think they will be.

That would keep in place marketing costs Windstream is trying to cut, especially on the CLEC side, applying more pressure to drastically restructure the CLEC business.

What’s not clear to me is how much Windstream relies on a bunch of channel partners.

In other businesses, sometimes agents are just a costly waste of money. In others, you cut your own throat if you get rid of them.

Is Windstream better off just relying on its own employees to sell services?

Anybody know the quality of the reps Windstream uses?

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Post ID: @1wsk+10ylCE5D

ok again, this company is bankrupt, look for another job, listen i promise Windstream will not succeed, It just will not

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Post ID: @1cpz+10ylCE5D

HAM is saying Windstream is stiffing them..... This surprises you? It doesn't me.

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Post ID: @dzp+10ylCE5D

Correction:
“Bankruptcy law provides for bankrupt entities to reject contracts that are ‘executors’”

That should’ve been executory

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