Thread regarding General Electric Co. layoffs

In GE contract talks, job security is apt to be the union’s focus

About $180 billion of General Electric’s market value has evaporated over the past four years.(AFP/GETTY IMAGES/FILE 2016)

Health care. Wages. Retirement. Sounds like the standard mix of concerns for union negotiations, right?

Well, Jerry Carney has one more to add. And Carney says this one should top the list at General Electric: job security.

Can you blame him? Carney, an IUE-CWA leader, is negotiating a new contract for 6,600-plus US workers of the Boston-based conglomerate, including nearly 1,400 at the jet engine plant in Lynn.

GE, you may have noticed, is in the midst of a rapid retrenchment. Business lines such as lighting and train engines are being divested, and massive job cuts are underway as GE executives try to bring the company’s storied-but-struggling power business back into the black. Wall Street is bracing for a negative cash flow this year

Companies don’t usually flaunt their money problems. But GE reps started meeting with unions last week in Cincinnati to hash out a new labor agreement, and those financial difficulties might just come in handy at the bargaining table. A four-year national contract expires June 23, and the pressure is on both sides to come up with a new contract before time runs out.

Stock price falling off a cliff? Don’t be ashamed. Instead, put it in the spotlight. GE sure did, on a corporate website established to discuss the contract negotiations. The stock price was $26.57 when the last contract was ratified, in 2015. Now, it’s trading in the $10 range. About $180 billion in market value has evaporated over the past four years.

In other words, these are lean times.

In a video interview on the website, Paul Lalli, GE’s lead negotiator, offered context. Cost-control is paramount, Lalli says. GE will eliminate $500 million in corporate costs by 2020, and new chief executive Larry Culp has pared back the shareholder dividend to near-invisibility.

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(The implication: We all need to share the pain.) Lalli says GE wants to negotiate a package that properly rewards employees while making the company financially competitive.

In this environment, Carney says job security has to be his number one priority. That means stronger language about the company working with the union first before trying to shut a plant, for example. The best health care and biggest pay hike in the world don’t mean much if your plant closes.

The IUE-CWA says the situation unfolding in Salem, Va., underscores these concerns. There, GE is ending the manufacturing of turbine controls. Roughly 250 people will lose their jobs next month. A local chapter of the IUE-CWA made a financial case to keep the plant, but it wasn’t good enough for the company. GE, the union says, is sending much of that work to India.

Meanwhile, Carney says, GE got around its unions by opening a new aviation factory in Alabama last year with nonunion labor and expanding another one in that state this year. They say we’re partners, Carney adds about GE management, but we’re only partners when they want something.

Strong words. But this kind of bluster isn’t unusual at the start of high-stakes contract talks. (A GE spokesman declined to comment on Carney’s union-busting allegations.)

These negotiations do not have a direct connection to the ongoing tumult in Europe that has kept GE in the headlines. GE is making cuts to its power-division there, in large part because of an ill-fated acquisition of Alstom’s energy business in 2015. To win government support in France for that deal, GE promised to add 1,000 jobs. Now, GE is slashing a similar amount.

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In the united States, unions represent just a small portion of GE’s overall workforce. As of Dec. 31, GE employed roughly 97,000 people in this country, out of 283,000 worldwide. (The count is likely to be smaller now, as GE has since divested a few more business lines, including its train division.)

GE’s retrenchment has shaken morale. Lalli and his team in Cincinnati may want to keep this in mind as they aim for the right balance in the negotiations.

Larry Culp probably realizes he has to keep the troops happy to pull off a revival. Their loyalty could prove more important than ever as Culp tries to steer this battleship toward prolonged profitability.

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@ZuQNhkG-2awl & @ZuQNhkG-2cvz There are many who work in Schenectady, skilled or not that no matter what, will hold onto GE till their dying breath because it's all they have. They will not leave to better themselves in any form because they believe this is the top. If GE closes up in Schenectady (no chance of that happening), they will not leave their town or even NY. They will just try to find another job doing whatever without uprooting and moving to another town/state. Most didn't move into the area from far away to start out at making a living. These people's families have been here for several generations just happened to be within a driving distance that they could deal with and GE was the best bang for the buck that would hire them. How many do you know that drive well over an hour? They can spend more than 10 hours a week just commuting. Their skill or lack of it is just something that happens to be so at the time they got hired. Most came in and started out unskilled at the bottom. Those who showed potential moved up to become machinists and whatnot. They didn't get skilled in the blue collar job field, started job hunting nation wide and found Schenectady. White collars mostly do that. The pool to pull new talent from isn't getting better year after year in the Schenectady area. I think GE knows the well had been over tapped and is going dry.

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Post ID: @2lid+ZuQNhkG

@ZuQNhkG-2awl...I agree, but not totally. If your making 125% of market and a take a 10% concession your still at 115% of market. If you leave for "the market" that a 15% pay cut. That's purely an emotional play unless its just to get off a sinking ship.

GE has been able, in the past to recruit skilled workers who made more per hour elsewhere because of the rich (not arguing if they were deserved or not) benefits. Things like OT counts towards DB pension calculations, Saturdays and Sundays are OT even if don't work 40 hours in a week, etc. , aren't "market" benefits.

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Post ID: @2dwr+ZuQNhkG

@ZuQNhkG-2cvz. Just because the GE plant in Schnectady isn't in a desirable location, doesn't mean alot of the work force there aren't skilled workers. If GE had the intestinal fortitude to make pay cuts across the board I guarantee you that the only people left would be the ones that move boxes around the plant or hand out gloves, and they have no desire to better themselves or they would have done so already. There's more fat on the top 5000 pay checks then anywhere else in the company. If GE can bring J.R. back as a consultant for 2MM a year they can certainly pay the people that actually make their products a decent wage. Trimming the fat is fine, but start where the fat is the heaviest!!

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Post ID: @2awl+ZuQNhkG

2018 union: "The reason we're taking a hit on benefits is to protect job security."

2019 union: "Those sneaky selfish managers figured out a way to lay people off anyway. Sorry!!"

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Post ID: @2twx+ZuQNhkG

GE already overpays it's employees significantly beyond the local prevailing wage in places like Schenectady. Maybe they should demand a pay cut as one of the concessions from the union this time. It's been long overdue.

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Post ID: @2cvz+ZuQNhkG

@ZuQNhkG-2xp, poor job of reading the "tea leaves". Ff the union lead negotiator is saying job security is the #1, that telegraphs that a company offer of some sort of job security can bought with union concessions (paying more health care for starters).

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Post ID: @2wvy+ZuQNhkG

If Rm out of Schenectady has anything to do with it we are screwed.

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Post ID: @2mtg+ZuQNhkG

Bottom line. You will be screwed over and it will pass. Like every contract.

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Post ID: @2qpd+ZuQNhkG

No consessions is what the national has stated, and no concessions is how I will vote.

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Post ID: @2xpj+ZuQNhkG

How about focusing on actually providing value with training programs and turn the union into skilled workers. Why would anyone bring a hostile workforce into a business and expect success.

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Post ID: @1sgi+ZuQNhkG

@ZuQNhkG-1rif, I agree with that 100%, same cost per person requires an adjustment in headcount. Concessions, less cost per person will require fewer adjustments in headcount. I hope I'm wrong.

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Post ID: @1xba+ZuQNhkG

@ZuQNhkG-1lme we used to have the sympathy of the public, now we don't even have that anymore. If you get your walking papers next, the public will just tell you "well it was a good run while it lasted".

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Post ID: @1rif+ZuQNhkG

What leverage does the union have to secure a "real" job security agreement?

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Post ID: @1lme+ZuQNhkG

Odd how over 90% of members voted for strike authorization, 100% of the membership complains about the cr---y contract, yet the contract is ALWAYS ratified by a 3 to 1 margin. Just like the company, the numbers don't add up.

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Post ID: @1wzh+ZuQNhkG

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/in-ge-contract-talks-job-security-is-apt-to-be-the-union%E2%80%99s-focus/ar-AACCXv7

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Post ID: @1hfh+ZuQNhkG

The blue collar workers will get a market based wage. The executives will get bonuses, stock options, and a golden parachute. Same old song and dance.

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Post ID: @bzx+ZuQNhkG

I can’t wait, reliable sources tell me we are in store for an excellent contract, very fair indeed!

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Post ID: @vet+ZuQNhkG

No raises, no better standard of living for the union members just layoffs.

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