Thread regarding Sears layoffs

Store P & L, and "costing the store", is the same thing. Clearing that up for some that seem to not know the basics of what they are talking about. Now that that is clear, the store takes the hit on their P&L for all injury and / or damage related payouts. And yes, one big claim has caused Sears stores to close in recent years. That is a fact, not my opinion. As far as my opinion goes, it is a mo--nic business decision to have 70 & 80 year old people moving appliances. Furthermore, it is not in any way illegal, as a manager, to hold different associates to different standards based on their physical abilities. If you have a store manager with a brain, and even marginal people and communication skills, this is easy to manage.

@2gei alright alright don't get your delicate Gen Z sensibilities triggered. Please submit textileless photos at a suitable video site along with anonymous username for proof of non 40+ BMI

"What a shame on 1170 and any others

Playing this game"

1171, not 1170. 1171 is springfield mo. teh manager name is Matt Sullentrup. he caused an employee in his 70s to go under the knife. Think about that.

@2wvv Get your head out of your own fat a--, jerk. I'm a 110lb woman. Apparently you've never seen any of those in your sad life.

I was the poster not understanding how cost goes against store p/L.

Self insured, I get. Sometimes folks post in anger, and ,

Make vague sense. I’d sears is pushing 60+ associates to quit, what a shame. We

Baby boomers don’t quit on a dime drop. Mgmt knows this and pushes

Those aged workers, cuz they know they can. What a shame on 1170 and any others

Playing this game

Found the guy using his freecash on Huskies.

There are way too many obese people in all age ranges, stop with the discriminatory attitude. There are several thin young people at my Sears. The only obese people there are a couple of middle-aged managers.

" @1qon is right. The senior citizens are the most fit folks around."

Hi Matt!!!!

I remember all the Teens and 20somethings at Occupy Springfield. It looked more like Occupy Fat Camp. @1qon is right. The senior citizens are the most fit folks around.

LOL at the obvious Sears mgrs trying to spin this. How the hell was this mgr not fired????

I work @ 1171. Manager is a giant POS.

Anyone who thinks someone in their 70s should be moving appliances and unloading trucks is either a complete id--t or completely lacking in ethics. If I were the old man who got injured and had to undergo surgery, I would be contacting a lawyer. The lowlife manager should have been fired.

Yeah, all the senior citizens were in great shape. The bullsh*t from Sears management never stops does it?

True, Millennials and Gen Zs are a bunch of obese fatties. Lots of former vets in their 60s working the stores still.

"Well I had some 60 year olds move Appliances only because they were the most physically fit in our store. Seemed everyone under 60 had back, knee or other issues. "

Hi Matt!

Well I had some 60 year olds move Appliances only because they were the most physically fit in our store. Seemed everyone under 60 had back, knee or other issues. Had a few men in their golden years that would be the first to assist me in when I came on the floor with a handtruck. Thier generation rocks!

@enl The practice of having late 60's and 70's work in receiving moving appliances and unloading trucks is common with Sears and Kmart. They are trying to get the people to quit. I have seen it happen numerous times and was instructed to do so when I was a lead. They claim it would be discrimination if they didn't treat everyone equally regardless of age. What a crock.

@uqb

Its an internal accounting thing for store peaformance 😧

@uqb "Sorry, but company insurance should cover this, not store profits."

Sears, like many large corporations, is 'self-insured', which means not insured at all. Everything comes out of their profits. Which worked fine decades ago when they were more profitable nationwide and could absorb sudden costs. Not so much anymore.

I have personal knowledge of this situation, as I used to work at 1171 before my position was eliminated. Pulling store associates who were advanced in age (even late 60s and 70s) off the floor and making them move appliances and unload trucks was/is a common practice under this manager. This did in fact result in an associate in his 70s getting a hernia and having to undergo an operation. During a conversation about this, the manager in question defended this practice and told me he had done it routinely at previous stores he had managed. I stopped short of calling him an id--t like the OP did, but did tell him I thought it was wrong and tried to explain to him that people in that age bracket get injured very easily as a rule, even performing common everyday tasks. He did not want to hear it. Trying to reason with this guy is an exercise in futility, like most other things at 1171.

"So we're debating having a 70 year old move appliances because it may or may not affect the bottom line?

What about the pure ethics of the situation to begin with ?"

BINGO.

So we're debating having a 70 year old move appliances because it may or may not affect the bottom line?

What about the pure ethics of the situation to begin with ?

Is against P&L a retail thing? I was part time for 9 years, but never heard of this.

Sorry, but company insurance should cover this, not store profits.

Yes, I've heard that worker's comp claims, and also any 'member' personal injury lawsuits, get counted against the profit/loss of the individual store where the incident occurred. One bad injury could shut down a store.

Probably if it was reported as an on the job injury, the P&L takes a hit.

....”hernia operation that cost the store thousands of dollars...”

How did it cost the STORE thousands of dollars.?

That’s just funny.