Last major products from JNPR were PTX and QFabric. 8 years ago. Risky and innovative for their times, and proven right in the long run to be correct, even if QFabric died a slow death (execution problems not an architecture one).
JNPR hasn't had an innovative product since. Just incremental, risk-averse me-too products. Simply having custom silicon isn't enough anymore.
Posted by @VReo1YE-1vxv, on point.
Damn! “Bwa-ha-ha-ha”
Stop backing yourself into a corner... And stop embarrassing yourself and Juniper marketing. Tell MM to hire Steve Shaw back. Unlike you, he knows this stuff as he is a real marketing expert on Mobile technologies. All this b.s. is why juniper is losing marketshare everywhere. Quit the lies.
There are two issues in the announcement and your aguements here...
Juniper marketing missed the number one benefit of 5G - latency. It is not throughput. Your writeup and marketing material missed the boat.
Many experts in the industry don't agree Verizon's 5G trial rollout which was in October is legit. BTW, juniper's write-up and announcement you talk about was in back in July. So probably based on speculation not fact. Bottom line is Verizon was a bad choice for a testimonial. You can read about below. Fir an industry transforming technology like 5G, you need more than 1 testimonial. All the other quotes and testimonials are bogus as well. Unrelated. Read this...
"Sounds great, but when does 5G get here?
Verizon launched the first "5G" service in the world in October, but it's a bit of a technicality -- a fixed broadband replacement, rather than a mobile service. An installer has to put in special equipment that can pick up the 5G signals and turn that into a Wi-Fi connection in the home so your other devices can access it.
There's also some debate about whether the service even qualifies as 5G: It doesn't use the standards the industry has agreed upon. The company wanted to jump out ahead, and used its own proprietary technology. Verizon argues that the speeds, which range from 300 megabits per second to 1 gigabit per second, qualify the service for 5G designation. Its rivals and other mobile experts dispute that claim. "
@VUoImXe-Zxhy you are smelling bull c**p because you are covered in it.
So you figure a testimonial from Vz is weak? its Vz for Gods sake! Top-5 customer of Juniper. Its written not by a corp comms or a product manager that cannot spell mobile, but by MA, who is Director of Network Infrastructure Planning at Vz. And if you have any clue how this works, you will know that if he is willing to be quoted on public website, you can be pretty darn sure he's tested it and can stand by his words.
You also have no idea about technology, do you? Its not that an ageing hardware is suddenly capable of supporting 5G by a name change. Read the article , its not very long and even someone like you should be able to understand that there is something more than mere renaming. I quote below --
Juniper Penta Silicon: At the heart of the new MX Series 5G Platform is the new Juniper Penta Silicon, a next-generation 16nm service-optimized packet forwarding engine that delivers...........
MX 5G Control User-Plane Separation (CUPS) Hardware Acceleration: As service providers prepare for 5G deployments, the 3GPP CUPS standard allows customers to separate the evolved packet core user plane (GTP-U) and control plane (GTP-C) with a standardized Sx interface to help service providers scale each independently as needed for added flexibility and investment protection. The MX Series 5G platform is the first networking platform to support a standard-based hardware accelerated 5G user-plane in both existing and future MX routers........
There is new hardware and software in the Mx before 5G support is claimed.
@VUoImXe-Zopn As you can see, its not hardware alone, though there's new hardware too. The software's developed to support 5G and its this brand new SW that makes MX 5G ready.
Btw, here's some more news on the topic, this time from Ericsson about delivering 5G to Swisscom.
https://www.ericsson.com/en/press-releases/2018/9/ericsson-delivers-end-to-end-5g-transport-solution-to-swisscom
Guys- there's many things wrong at Juniper, but let's not undermine some genuine achievements at a place we work currently or have in the past. Its yet possible these may yet be mismanaged away to failure, but let's call it a failure when it is, not now.
I just read the press release for this from June '18.
You are correct @VUoImXe-Zopn and I totally agree.. not one testimonials abou 5G deployment trial. The Verizon quote says ... Box is ready for 5G. Right! Did you run a trial? When? Where? And what did you test? Again, I smell bull c-ap.
If you are re-naming your flagship product line to support some new standard, such as 5G, shouldn't you prove it already works, than just one weak customer testimonial (which was probably written by a corporate comms or product marketing manager who can barely spell mobile?
Not surprising the stock is heading in the wrong direction. Here's the press release...
https://investor.juniper.net/investor-relations/press-releases/press-release-details/2018/Juniper-Networks-Unveils-5G--and-IoT-Ready-Routing-Platform-to-Unlock-Service-Creation-Opportunities/default.aspx
That's great but sad the marketing team can't articulate this when they renamed the entire proulduct line to 5G... Frankly that's how you lose credibility because ... it's still hard to believe, because most of this hardware was built before 5G standards were even ratified. If they enabled some software to makes some 5G function, why can't they let the world know. I am calling the bluff. So, who's fooling who? Let's get real here.
Yes, new software on Mx developed in partnership with the 5G vendor. While innovation is indeed a problem, the bigger one is our inability to survive and compete in the Enterprise side. SP market has been flat to declining, and any growth must come from Enterprise where we are weak especially in partnerships as well as portfolio. Even our SDWAN win is with Vodafone which while great is not sufficient unless we can win in thousands of small and medium enterprises. Routing can at best maintain revenues - growth must necessarily come from switching & security.
Spot on.
Don't you think the CEO and his C-suite execs must know all this? That also begs the question of why they are not doing anything about it, other than buying up companies to break into cloud management. Most will agree that steering enterprise traffic to different cloud providers is not a big deal. What's up with renaming the flagship MX router product to position it for 5G mobile deployments? Does it even have any new software features that help deploy 5G?