So let’s get this straight , OSP doing standby for Field Service and Construction ??? Maybe we should just get all the Customer Center calls routed to our phones !!! I mean REALLY ALTICE REALLY !!!! Management wonders why shops are going Union ... well wonder no more it’s here in black and white for all you trolls ... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ...
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: @SXXElHy-4acv. What's your compliance report card look like. Osp work has been cut 50% because someone finally showed you how to balance.
I think that HeadEnd tech is Buggin !!! Nobody from OSP went to HeadEnd from the Bx !!! One guy did, a few years ago and ended up right back where the Money is ..... OSP ...Sad to say thou he jumped on the Scab Spectrum wagon ... so this guys full O crap !!!!
Let’s see ... Zerega Hub .... You mean Seabury ???? Right .... your current OSP Pay was low because you didn’t have much time in position or the company ??? Hmmmmmm who could this be ??????
Wow you people spread lies like mash potatoes. I was hired for isp zerega hub in the bronx. And it was a pay raise way above my current osp pay.
The earlier poster is correct ISP can do everyone's job. But not everyone can do ours. Other than ISP osp can do everyone's job as well. You move up because you started at the bottom not the other way around.
Osp tends to hate on isp because were not out in the elements. But we earned that right we paid our dues to move up. Together we balance nodes but our job similarities end there. If you've never been in a headend and actually built a commercial circuit or solve a qpsk problem among other data, light and rf problems that deal with signal distribution for outside transport than you shouldn't talk nonsense. Our jobs are no longer as physical as the rest of you but it sure as hell is more mental and that can be more exhausting than a five story walk up, carrying a 75 pound ladder, or raising a boon. We are the top dogs around here for a reason. Want to know why? Step in a hub for a day and learn something.
My point exactly Head End pays nothing because they have really no risk as opposed to being in the field !!! Sad but true !! Nothing against HeadEnd techs ... but they aren’t the top paid not top knowledge... Money Wise that list is way off way off !!
Last time I applied for ISP they said I would have to take a 33k pay cut.
Maybe that’s the path ? Idk all I know is Pay wise it’s Fiber then OSP .. Don’t care much for titles give me the money or the ability to make it !!!!
Lol y’all some haters but that headend guy is right. I was told I have to be an osp engineer before I can be headend engineer. Apparently it goes like this by level of difficulty:
1: headend engineer
2: osp engineer
3: fiber tech
4: design tech
5: construction tech
6: audit tech
7: field tech
There was only one person that I know of that held all those titles. I also know that he was a OSP supervisor for sometime before he retired as a field service supervisor, I think from the Oakland Depot . So it can be done, especially if you're going to make this Business your career.
ISP is on their own. They are ausa and wouldn't be included in vote.
Talking unionization, you don't need ISP techs. There are only 3 or 4 of them in any given system and they're typically so arrogant that they are not worth the trouble. Go forward without them. You will be better off.
Good to see all the njs south techs last night. Glad to see us stand together.
Here we go divide conquer between OSP and the headend can’t we all just get along
Lol y’all some haters but that headend guy is right. I was told I have to be an osp engineer before I can be headend engineer. Apparently it goes like this by level of difficulty:
1: headend engineer
2: osp engineer
3: fiber tech
4: design tech
5: construction tech
6: audit tech
7: field tech
From my last interview for headend, what I learned about what I needed to learn about hubs and master headends and what they do is much more complicated than you think. I can see why they are at the top of the food chain, but most of all why it’s hard to even be considered for the spot, when one rarely opens. So y’all need to stop being salty about who’s better than who especially if you want to unionize. I don’t want to be a field tech forever. it would be nice to be an osp or headend engineer so sick of customers and busting my back with 5 story walk ups. With my years of service maybe I can grab a headend spot based on seniority with union. So let’s do this vote yes.
“Nothing gets done without us”
More like nothing gets done by you! Part swapping fitting changers. If that’s the definition of an engineer, I’m an “f”ing astronaut!
Headend "engineer." Lmfao, get over yourself clown. I made myself some toast this morning - that doesn't make me an executive chef. Lay off the titles son. You're insulting people who really are "engineers" and have the degree to prove it.
Stop the crying OSP. 🍼🍼
Your good until you need to get wet or cold. Are you saying you can be in the on call rotation with us. I wouldn't mind rolling out to a controlled environment that has a light switch. Grow a set and volunteer to do standby with us
@ shinoda
Osp The gold standard? I dont think so buddy.
Headend engineers are the gold standard. We are the backbone. Nothing gets done without us. We've done everyone's jobs.
OSP techs can do field service work with no problem (despite not wanting to.) The same cannot be said for field service techs doing OSP work. Construction techs can't troubleshoot anything. The fact of the matter is this idea of a universal tech has been floated around since Cablevision was in charge. Now it is coming to fruition and the only department smart enough and experienced enough to shoulder that burden is the hallowed OSP department. OSP is the gold standard for technical cable knowledge.
Some of you guys are dumb as hell..ftth won’t be all done in maybe 5 to next 7 years. Let contractors take Fs work with Altice One rite now who cares..because If ftth is the plan..millions of homes will need to be ran brand new again..how long you think that will take? And who is in line on doing that ATS..stop crying and get to work! Or find another job it’s simple.
What are you smoking ???? OSP being exposed ??? Best techs for FTTH ??? Dude please stop ....
We are all contractors. They only choose the best for the FTTH projects. Osp is finally being exposed. LTA’s and construction alongside with the choice OSP techs are the the company backbone.
Contractors will be 98 percent doing all FS work ... FTTH techs will be LTA then when no longer needed .... bye bye .. Construction is already pretty much a ghostown !!! All cables being done by Contractors... So FS instead of being happy about no on call .. Think really hard ... WHY ..... Open your minds and vision the EndGame .....
No on-call sounds great ...!! But may not be so great in the long run ... something’s coming....!!
You hit the mail on the head. Design construction and service will be the first to go.
This is just another way to eliminate the need for inhouse service techs and go to contracted labor for installs/service. Service techs are loving this no more on call stuff. Too bad they aren't seeing the bigger picture.
We do Construction jobs already and have been doing for a while .. no construction techs left here anyways so it’s Run a Temp and it will more than likely stay Temp to Permanent!!!! So so sad what this place is now .... Laughing stock of the industry
I like all of our plant guys in my shop but I really can't see them interacting with customers
If osp can do constructions job and the job of field service doesn't that show that we are less likely to need these other techs when the new build is done? More contractors that they can pay for piece work instead of an hourly rate?
eh we're all in deep doo do anyway. We have no 2018 Goals and there's no scorecards. what's that tell you
they basically removed double time as it is.
Wait until they remove health benefits and double time.
Bet Lodi osp wished they were in the vote now.
Is this happening in Bk or Jersey union shops ???
Morris today. effective May 11
It’s TIME to organize now !!!! All shops !!! OSP has always been the stalemate .. But this can’t go on like this any longer .. We need to get things right before we lose more days and lose what ever self respect we have left .. Not hiring replacements was bad enough in OSP ... but no throwing all this On call work at US is the last straw ... more Customers are gonna leave then will be saved by taking FS and Construction off !!!
Just found out in rockland/warwick system we will be covering field service, construction, and our normal osp work while on call starting friday the 10th. Looks like its company wide boys.
Let’s unionize the whole ATS Sham !!!
Never thought I hear union out of OSP techs mouth ....!! Apparently they are ready ...!!!
I think we can handle the field service calls but construction is a whole different skill.