Thread regarding Sears layoffs

S&P: Future of Kmart Retail Under Discussion

S&P on Monday evening upgraded its credit rating on Sears to CCC- after noting it secured debt extensions, progress on cost reductions and access to new liquidity.

S&P was told by Sears Holdings officials the future of the Kmart retail brand, a former icon in American retailing, is now under discussion, with a final determination about the future of its retail stores expected this year.

Most analysts expect Kmart's retail operations will be wound down and converted to an online-only retail operation by 2019. An orderly wind down of the Kmart retail operation would free up significant capital to pay down maturing debt and allow Sears Holdings to increase spending on its member-focused Shop Your Way Rewards membership program, which is increasingly focused on rewarding shoppers for purchases made outside of the Sears Holdings family of companies.

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@3amy, LOL

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Post ID: @3mgw+SDdm0fO

@2lsn - I would suggest you visit a SHLD site where the majority of posters are SHLD associates. Then you won't have to fret about diabolical stock traders. I would recommend Pebble.

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Post ID: @3amy+SDdm0fO

The majority of the posters on here are stock traders. Few actually work at sears.

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Post ID: @2lsn+SDdm0fO

@1enn - Who cares if a stock trader did post the information or even if stock traders visit this site. The important thing is that the information got posted! There are no velvet ropes on this site; anyone is welcome to view and/or post on this site. The only exception are the trolls; they are definitely not welcomed here!

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Post ID: @2bel+SDdm0fO

So that one guy has a Bloomberg subscription (and used it to share good information about the future of the company). Most of the people here, including me, certainly don't have access to that. I doubt even most of the minority of people on this forum who are stock traders are forking over for that.

I saw something on TV about how those Bloomberg terminals work, a few years ago. I think there were some chat rooms built into these terminals, where all sorts of crazy stuff goes on. Most of the people who do have access probably spend most of their online socializing time in there.

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Post ID: @2cbn+SDdm0fO

Wait. Who is one here with a subscription to a Bloomberg terminal?? Certainly no one who works at sears!!!!!

As I said all along this is just a website full of stock traders

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Post ID: @1enn+SDdm0fO

This report is accurate and accessible from the Bloomberg News terminal (sub req'd.). But non-subscribers will have to pay at least $1,999 annually for a basic subscription to read it from S&P's intelligence reports for investors. That is probably why there was no link.

I didn't even think this was controversial because it has been amply discussed by Wall Street analysts for at least six months. The trajectory is a no-brainer. Kmart's niche is largely gone. Budget minded customers shop for apparel at TJMaxx/Marshalls, Target and Walmart for grocery and toys, and Dollar General and Family Dollar are the go-to places for lower income customers.

Kmart locations are primarily leased, not owned outright, unlike Sears. So there is no significant possibility of leveraging those properties for cash. Wall Street is pushing for this too to cut costs and refocus the business. Lots of headwinds against Kmart staying retail.

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Post ID: @1fsh+SDdm0fO

I don't know how they can close all the KMARTS without bankruptcy. They have leases to continue paying

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Post ID: @1jnb+SDdm0fO

This WSJ article does mention the recent CCC- upgrade: https://www.wsj.com/articles/click-to-buy-some-sears-stores-are-being-auctioned-online-1523398421

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Post ID: @1qum+SDdm0fO

Eddie: "I didn't close Kmart, it just...slipped away. While the stores are gone, there's still Kmart.com."

Kmart fans:. "Slipped away? SLIPPED AWAY! I DON'T WANT A WEBSITE! I WANT THE STORES! YOU CLOSED MY KMART!"

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Post ID: @diu+SDdm0fO

No, not my KMART!!!! You did it! YOU MURDERED MY KMART!!!!

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Post ID: @cok+SDdm0fO

Kmart is not going anywhere. Does anyone have a link to this news? No? Oh right, that’s because it’s more FAKENEWS!!!!!!

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Post ID: @rpm+SDdm0fO

I call BS on this. Sears debt was downgraded to CCC- in January and further downgraded to default status just last month. Somebody is trying to manipulate Sears Holdings stock. Don't fall for it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/01/18/sears-holdings-hit-s-p-global-credit-downgrade/1043434001/

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/22/news/companies/sears-default/index.html

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Post ID: @kqt+SDdm0fO

So in other words Kmart locations will mostly go bye bye and go online now? Is it the reason the stock got a little boost this past few days? I am assume they are going to sell physical locations get some cash flow and once again buy itself more time?

Their must be a cap for this though no? Since Eddie can't sell all the physical locations and have no collateral when everything goes under.

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Post ID: @mfv+SDdm0fO

What is this obsession that boomers have with Sears being an icon? Sears is not an icon for anyone under 50. Kmart IS an American discount icon. Unlike Sears, Kmart represented for Americans of all income levels well into the 90s, the idea that consumer goods are within reach for everyone.

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Post ID: @mpf+SDdm0fO

Big mistake! Kmart has great products, prices, and brand awareness. Kmart should be taking over and expanding into the Sears locations which are often in better shape . Kmart is a great discounter, a general merchandise store that offers everything Target and Walmart do apart from fresh groceries.

Sears is bettered on every single category by Home Depot, Lowe's, JC Penney, Kohl's , TJX, Burlington. Softlines or hardlines, can anyone name anything that Sears excels at? I can honesty say that Kmart is better on price than other discounters on many categories. There is nothing Sears sells that cannot be added to Kmart to improve Kmart. Adding Kmart products to Sears doesn't work because Sears is a department/home improvement store and people don't think of Sears as a general merchandise store.

Sears is a store geared to middle income shoppers , but with a name that is considered downmarket. Kmart is a discounter geared to all income levels looking for a bargain and who consider it an American Icon of getting good deals. Sears has not had real relevance to anyone in decades. It may not have been financially successful in the 90s, but Kmart with their Big Kmart model when they went head to head against Walmart actually was equal to Walmart in the eyes of the shopper, whether it worked financially for the company or not. That Big Kmart period means that the Kmart name still has value to many younger people. Kmart with some Sears brands to bring it's perceived quality up would work, forget that Target was once a normal discounter until they brought in designer clothes. Sears Holdings should be using Sears' brands to make Kmart the steady middle quality discounter, something above Walmart but less trendy than Target.

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Post ID: @kij+SDdm0fO

Then when they burn through that money, Sears goes online only too.

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Post ID: @voa+SDdm0fO

This is a huge mistake!

Kmart should be expanded....

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Post ID: @byn+SDdm0fO

Just as I predicted they are going to sacrifice Kmart to save Sears.

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