Thread regarding Juniper Networks Inc. layoffs

Getting back to the original discussion from three months ago, the original post was spot on. Several layoffs since then have not fixed the issues. We are still struggling. Drowning in the miscalculated decision making from middle management and the leadership all the way up to RR.

What is the impact of the most recent layoff in your group? In mine, everyove is demoralized. Layoffs have not fixed any problems. Rather they have created more new ones.

Let’s not go off topic and keep the conversation with useful information about any possible layoffs.

The two people on a battle here are probably trolls from cisco.

@1aeze, Good, you finally understand the simple tag. Now you should be able to see how stupid @15pjo was. Just to inspire your next big improvement, it would look less stupid if you can use correct punctuation when LOL about a typo. Although you haven't realized yet, I kinda hope that you can figure out the fact that this website is not a place for you to learn things like tagging or to have fun finding typos. How about you take your selfeducation somewhere else?

P.S. there are some typos/errors here to make you feel fulfilled. You are welcome and please GTFO so adults can talk about Juniper rumors.

@1aeze, if a typo is LOLable to you, the lack of IQ showed in @15pjo should be enough to entertain you for the rest of your life. Have fun~

@16jwy, LOL for your typo: “Learned some new staff”?

@Ru9cCR5-15pjo, interesting. What makes you think anyone thought "fzhu" is a real name or initials? Obviously this website supports different versions of tag. Just like @Ru9cCR5-15pjo and @15pjo create same link to that particular post of yours.

I thought this is very straightforward since all you have to do is a simple click on the tag. But obvoisly you did not get it. Now that you learned some new staff, you should be able to see that @fwmb was just mentioning the post @fzhu with no implication on the poster's name of any sort. Got it?

Just curious. Before you want to LOL something, shouldn't you make sure you understand what you are LOLing at?

@Ru9cCR5-fwmb, LOL! I don’t think fzhu is their real name or initials. It is probably a coincidence when fzhu’s post was posted that this website generated fzhu.

I like your confidency @fzhu, but don't think you are entitled to define either solution or problem for all of us, let alone asking others to stop talking about them. Given the current state of the company, seniority hardly works in your favor. If you don't like what you see, do yourself a favor, don't look.

After reading the comments here, I have to say is you can always leave the company. I’m an employee for many years here in through the ups and downs I make a choice to stay here. My view, is that you become part of the solution. Because right now you’re just part of the problem with all the toxic complaining. Do people a favor and just move on from here.

All the corrupted "Chiefs" and the mid-management fiefdom they have created needs to go. Start looking at management layers in EMEAR. Most are useless, none even have an MBA and/or experience of man-management. Promoted because they hung on from someone's coat-tails for long enough and is there just for their salary .

Lay off can solve the problems of juniper

If

It happens at exec levels

&

Happen fast

else

Juniper will be history

But

One Chief gone , more to follow

Hence

There is hope

@Ru9cCR5-bdwg No worries, people are moving all right. And if they wanna vent, it is perfectly fine. I have been out for a while as I ran out of my patience, but I don't see a problem when some people still want to make it a better place.

To all you suffering btards..quit whining and get going while the mkt is still hopping. If you need to learn how to s*k on it just look around at AA and co; will be handy at the new place. Good luck.

If anyone says “No Promotions”, I would be skeptical because that is when the underhanded promotions take place - When no one is expecting. The exact thing happened a few years ago, and the biggest assclown in a group was made the director/people manager. Didn’t take long for him to show his incompetence. He still does.

Also, “no promotions” is also HR lingo for impending for layoffs,

Promotions for some of these asslickers continue. Two director promotions under LJ, when the same managers have been communicating no promotions across board for anyone.

Sadly, the Board of Directors of Juniper Networks do not have enough balls to change any of this. They are like a group of high stakes gamblers in wall street, instead of las vegas. They sit around a table and vote, after listening to a pitch or reading a memo. They cannot fix what is wrong with Juniper... what is wrong must fix itself. How you ask?

• rami should encourage AA as well as others like the CMO, MM to resign

• then rami himself should resign

• then the åssholęs in the company should all be invited to jump from the roof of building A or B, or resign... you know who you are.

Juniper need an over haul , BOD should act soon or it will be too late.

Bring a Sales guy as ceo , the cutrent plm ceo is not good enough , he already has good 3 years.

C staff need to be overhauled and new ceo will do that.

Engineering lead should be the first one to go , the little rocket man is incapable at all leadership level , at best he can be engr manager or director of a small team.

CMO should be sent to America got talent , he will do well .

After these 2 changes all things will get aligned as rest of folks will fall .

Listen BOD, change it now or prepare to be doomed .....soon ............ very soon

I was chatting with a co-worker as we noticed the trend in management at Juniper is “ managing by wikipedia” or “following cisco” . This is particularly true for Marketing campaigns. Certainly not a bad way to understand the competition or learn what someone else is doing but deciding what to market by following a leader is not the best strategy as an innovator. Just an observation that engineering innovations are often delayed until a competitor (mostly Cisco) comes out with an announcement. Are Cisco dropouts calling the shots in our Marketing team? Maybe thats where we need a change.

@Ru9cCR5-9dew , Agree. Not just in US . It's happened in EMEAR and in Technical Sales too. For an employee who was hired directly from outside Juniper, few years back, I had a great couple of years here. Then all of a sudden people started leaving, I saw genuine senior leaders who were delivering positively on numbers being laid off and I got dumped under a someone promoted to a manager who not only had no people-management experience, was/is extremely arrogant, suffered from a world-conquest complex and brought in mafia-style management by micro-managing and lying. Then came last years' March layoff and more people who were well liked, performed beyond expectations were laid off in EMEAR. I got the message and left. Like @Ru9cCR5-9aou, there are lots of companies out there which treat people better and at least TRY to give them a better, healthier management.

IMHO, anyone at Juniper who is unhappy, feels career is becoming moribund and has confidence in their abilities, should look outside and look hard and fast.

In EMEA, the show is being run by fiefdom. Whose a$$ you kiss and for how long you have done it is what matters, not what you deliver. Seems like a global Juniper epidemic.

@Ru9cCR5-9dew

I have been there, vexed with the environment around and moved out.

Prepare well and get out of it, there are many many opportunities outside.

I am sure everyone will make it to great places

Not only in Engineering alone, you find these idiots in Marketing and PLM organizations too, you will find useless cronies who talk the talk, who cannot walk the walk. If you observe them, you will notice:

• Their first sign is their arrogance, to the hide their incompetence.

• Their second sign is their Anger, to show off their false authority.

• The third sign is their ridiculously stupid decision making showing off their true idiotic selves.

Unfortunately there are many of these ‘leaders’ who have worked themselves up the management chain. From jumping groups to using influential friends and relatives to get promoted. They are everywhere. JD, Andy and others have helped many of these unqualified promotions take place.

Please let everyone know who they are, so they can be publicly shamed and removed from office at the next layoff. This company cannot function and get back to normal as long as these clowns are still around. This circus must end.

they have installed and promoted thier people all around in engineering and gotten rid of competents. No one can save this train wreck now.

Juniper Properties would be a nice way to protect shareholder value, and diversify investments into a new line of business.

There are also a few other lucrative businesses, conveniently established with the same name, which can be aquired for further diversification into new segments...

http://junipercannabis.com/

http://www.juniperanalyticsllc.com/

http://www.juniperpharma.com/

@Ru9cCR5-3ulw That is a good point. Not to mention some folks in lower management chain already have their broker licenses. Although they are still clueless about technical stuff after several years of tenure, they would make perfect property managers.

CEO is spineless...can't set accountability at his staff level and take action...as he needs his back scratched...last time he agreed to slaughter hardworking engineers than upper leeches.. (oops all those are family & friends, which come first than anything else)

CDO (destroying) is brainless, can't think anything other than checking his dashboards, shows up in the status review meetings and yells at whoever asks any question. His decisions are so ill-informed, Intellectually bankcorrupt, dishonest to core and impeccably full of dis-integrity. He symbolizes where juniper culture has fallen to these days...

CFO..get some real one who knows his job...not sure what this guy is good at...

CTO..still clueless, the day he realizes where he has landed himself, will jump to one of the companies across, so far his mission has been to create opinion/need/impression to acquire FUN-G-BLE

Not sure if there is any HR...

Bring back the leaders who had delivered for juniper and were sidelined by these self-serving so called C-Suites...

Rami is a crafty... when he says switching is growing double digits, it means we sold 200 units one quarter and 220 units the next quarter. 10% growth... double digits. Yippie!!!!

If he really wanted to be truthful and compared switching sales to the industry and Arista, that would tell the real story, wouldn't it?

We are not the type of company that can do well in BUs.

Let’s face it, the best bet now is to make use of the prime land we own and build (singapore style) high rise apartments for Google employees. Or else Google will buy Juniper for the land and do the same.

Juniper split into BUs didn’t work last time around, so why would a split company work now?

Wouldn’t each BU have a GM/CTO/CDO etc?

Whatever happened to Evo? Is it dead yet?

A. You need chief dev off from outside , and he should bring his own team and drain the swamp

B. You need to split one juniper into multi BUs ( may be 3 or 4) with GMs who are accountable and bring diversification of thought.

C. Juniper need to move to growth areas , legacy R&S is evolving but old school juniper is not. Growth areas are led by his friends who are operations guys with no vision, no wonder why security is so messed up and RS is getting screwed by 2 fellows who never managed a single person in entire career but they were moved to management chain as VPs managing big teams

D. Routing team of juniper is never touched , there is lot of fat , it should be trimmed down and focus should b on growth areas. Routing team is big mafia in juniper.

E. Bring diversity, this has become a fully Indian company ( myself being Indian feel like working back home lol ) .

F. Bring an experienced CEO , current nice guy is not good enough as this is his first job as ceo

Just spat coffee all over my keyboard reading this :O

"We’ve built a solid switching business, growing a double digits, we’ve turned around the security business, where we saw sequential, and year-over-year growth, and where we expect momentum to continue into this year."

He forgot to mention a minor detail that all those who got these idiots to it have been booted or marginalized or pushed out......crazy :-). Honestly, some who actually got their a-- out of the owen were unceremoniously dispatched. And that's one good reason they will be done no sooner then next minor hiccup.

On another note, anyone else finds it hilarious that they have all the funds in the world to feed the W.S clowns who keeps this joke of a place going? $2B in buybacks are showing the writing on the wall, the management has nothing else to offer to the share holders and employees besides some petty change.

Any idea when is the next round of layoff? I assume our CDO will change in this round.

@Ru9cCR5-2uyd, I agree. At juniper you don't need to be smart, work hard, or be productive to be rewarded or promoted. You need the right contacts. I know this is consistently true in Engineering, PLM and Marketing. Maybe other groups too.

Agree

AA's got huge achievement alright, he and his buddies converted netscreen's 400M business to 20M! Its a huge achievement whichever way to think of. Wait till he does the same for rest of Juniper.

The same that always and the only talent that works at Juniper...right contacts

So what are the achievements that pumped him to C-level?

But at least everyone’s checking code into common to enable feature velocity. Oh wait...

Andy is symbolic of everything wrong with engineering culture here. Havent seen more rude and uninspiring unleader in my career.

AA only cares for his co-hoots, friends, family, extended relations, and of course himself. He is goin to be eating juniper inside out :-)

What happened to those "innovations" many fellows and DEs have been working on for years. Isn't now a good time for them to jump out and save the day?