Just found out that more lay-offs are happening today in Enterprise Security products.
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@NDL0cB0-oova, sorry to hear your dilemma. To answer your question why Board is "rewarding" MW and cronies, simply put Board members in general have vested interest in the artificial share values themselves!! Now you got the picture?? They are there for the shareholders and not for the employees...the employees may own "some" shares but the big $$$ Investors are the top and Board members.. they are in it together ..
If the budget is bad reason for lay offs then why is Meg and the VP keep promoting themselves after each lay off and they should not get any bonus, if I was in the Board of Directors, I would not allow any exec to get bonus or raising until they lead honestly and instead of destroying once good company by making a false profit of money by how many people they off - the profit does not last long because it is no real. There was no other jobs available for me to take in HPE - reason why I am still out of work. It great the person who was able to find a job and stay with HPE is good.
20+ laid off HPE Security ArcSight on June 5th, I also hear another round in August before MicroFocus. But they are expanding their hiring in Costa Rica and Prague and high majority of Guess Workers are still there. Meg's WFR priority are 1) USA and 2) Age discrimination.
Monday the 19th of June will be for another graduation class of WFRs. Don't fret, it takes about 84 calendar days from notification through your last severance payment. It's refreshing once your on the outside. Best to all.
aldv,
Dull and repetitive, but as long as it keeps you happy :)
I just came across the below from another thread... so true..
"If past history has not provided you with any indication, then here is the reality. The technology section today is much like the finance industry in the 90's. Spin off or mergers to prove profitability when there is no more $$ to be made.
MW knows nothing about technology but she knows how to "chop" HP into pieces and "match making". By doing so she "boost" up shareholders confidence in her (and the Board). By continuing WFRs, she makes the "pieces/remants" look attractive for acquisition. There is no job security but to be "seating ducks" waiting for the next round of WFR if you chose to "pledge" loyalty ..."
To 9lee, if you are indeed "non leadership" as you claimed to be, you do not have to be so defensive of statements being directed at "bad behavior" called out and intended for "leadership". I totally embraced 9kxr's opinion it's a dog-eat-dog world at HP.
It's obvious you have managed to "survive" despite the many "casualties" of WFR. This forum is intended for people to vent and warn others remaining at this "raunchy" organization. It is not intended for someone like you to "preach" how wonderful it is for "you" and "worship" the unethical conduct of so called "leadership". It becomes very clear, your motives and agenda is more than just coming from a "simple" worker bee.
Since you vehemently pointing out the "remnant" of HP is different from DXC, I see you have enough influencing power to change the search result when "google" DXC layoffs. A few days ago when google "dxc layoff" the search result would be returned with HPE/HP nested underneath. Now that has been removed. Wow! What a coincidence!! 😜 ... call me paranoid or skeptic, you showed waaaay too much interest in protecting management/leadership to be a genuine sincerely worker bee...continue to be under your "cloak".
As for 9kxr, wishing you all the best in your next chapters. The only trolls here are the "spy'" and "leadership", no need to turn on others. This is exactly what 9lee is here for to stir things up!!!
Hi 91EE,
Please don’t mind the trolls… I found what you have written to be even-handed. As most of us know, some people use the anonymity of the internet to be a bit cruel and vicious.
I am glad you are having a good experience at HPE… I hope it lasts, for you. As for me, I have worked there both as a “permanent” (ha!), and as a contractor. In both groups where I worked (and from what I hear, elsewhere as well), the impact of years and years of layoffs coupled with “forced distribution reviews” was totally obvious… A dog-eat-dog environment of making others look bad, so that we can look good… And ZERO teamwork!
But I can also tell you that I have seen very-very similar behavior at other companies as well. Usually not quite as bad… Humans are humans, worldwide, though…
I for one (as a laid-off person, laid off from a dog-eat-dog group there) post here, from a perceived moral-ethical duty to warn other people… Do NOT hire on at HPE as anywhere near a first resort, it is pretty raunchy!
Meanwhile, good luck to you, and… Treasure your decent work environment while it lasts!
9jec and 9qc1
I'm not management, far from it, just an individual contributor with around 8 years of HP(E) experience. I've previously been on WFR, but was lucky to find another role within the company that meant I was able to stay. I personally don't see the same problems that you evidently do, and I'm enjoying my role at the moment, as are the majority of my peers (otherwise this message board would be overflowing), but my simple advice to you would be this; if you're not enjoying your role or the mentality of the management, the door is always open to look around outside, but remember the grass isn't always greener.
I'm guessing since you haven't left already that either you enjoy being in a job where you can complain anonymously about things you can't change, or you haven't been able to find anything externally that suits your high demands.
@NDL0cB0-9jec. Thank you and thank you! You nailed it! The handle named 9uxb is obviously the one persistently defending the so called "management decision" in an attempt to cover up the truth by trying discredit "insider knowledge". This is typical "leadership" to try to mislead the real worker bees. It's typical of their style to hold employees hostage for their own personal gains. They know they can't get another "executive" job elsewhere and hence seating all day on this forum to try to sabotage. Now we know they do nothing strategically as leaders...overpay and underperformed so called "leaders"...
@NDL0cB0-9uxb has said:
"...It is our role as employees to work out if those changes are worth staying on for, and work hard to create value for the business, or whether it's time to move along..."
Heck no, It is NOT our only role. It is also our duty to sound off about the management excesses and stupidities in forums such as this.
You clearly appear to be a management crony who has drank the kool-aid and now wants to preach
- 8vfr Please, stop confusing things. HPE wasn't acquired by CSC. A PART of HPE was spun off to form DXC. The network move you mention is a DXC issue, nothing to do with remainco, or what's left inside HPE, which includes networking as a strong remaining part of the portfolio.
Sure there will be WFRs, sure things will change, there will be more acquisitions, and maybe even more divestitures, sure eventually there will be a new CEO, and he/she will be subject to just as much criticism and praise as the current CEO and indeed the former CEOs have endured. That's the way business works. It is our role as employees to work out if those changes are worth staying on for, and work hard to create value for the business, or whether it's time to move along, either by way of a WFR or a personal choice.
At the end of the day, it's your life, and you need to choose how to live it. You can sit on rumor boards all day and make unsubstantiated comments about things that may or may not happen, or you can just get on with it.
8wdw, you are so correct HP is not the same as HPE. Back in 2015 (before the split), there was only one HP.
One thing for sure, the split of HP and HPE just the start of cutting HP into pieces to make it more attractive to be acquired. HPE acquired by CSC to form DXC. Now the next steps are network move over to AT&T. Why do you believe the future fate of HP is "immued"??
I do understand the fear of being subject to WFR, but living in "deny" will not help to face the reality. I trust in a fantasy world, one would love to have one job for life...😜
-7rsg
HP is not the same as HPE, my friend, at least get that right.....
To 7yxb,
Yes, agreed it's microfocus which is a small part of HP. Given the track record of the so called "leadership" the slice and dice of breaking up HP into pieces just to prove its profitable is the fact. You may want to discredit my post by pointing out the "lack of insider" knowledge. One thing I have learned is that leadership is not to be trusted. Are you part of the "leadership" team. 😜
Furthermore, you may want to lead employees to believe that the severance package in "non USA" is worth for the remaining employees to "stay put" until they get WFR... it is just a matter of time...HP was at one time a name brand, but it has deterriated over time due to poor leadership ...
.Are you the next CEO of the combined HP and Microfocus? Granny Meg trained you well... CH...? If not, I wish you well to seat and wait at HP until the next steps....
-7qtw, you seem to be a bit confused in some of your facts. The SW division is going off to MicroFocus, an enterprise software company, not Microstrategy, a business intelligence company. This is only a small part of the remaining HPE, not the whole company as you suggest.
HP is not the same as HPE, don't forget that. HP make printers and laptops, HPE make enterprise compute, storage, and network solutions. I guess you must have missed that in your onboarding.
Also, what your describing severance etc may be legal in the US, but in many parts of the world it won't fly.
But apart from that, thanks for stopping by
I see this forum is for the "remaining" of HP. I joined HPE from outside less than 1 year before spin merge in April, 2017.
Check out the HPE "fate" by Google "DXC layoff". Hope that will help to put the "remaining" HP employees in perspective. You will merge (so they call" with Microstrategy in the coming months. A new company name will be formed. It's creation and existence has a very targeted objective (at least the primary), which is to show shareholders the cost saving by "staff optimization" and "location consolidation".
The severence package from HP will vanish and now you will be given notice on Monday's and last day on the same Friday (DXC). People with over 15 years tenure now be given 6 weeks severence (including the 1 week working notice). It's brutal and unethical at its best...BTW, they will not ask you to sign anything as part of WFR notice. This is intentionally designed and to ensure they are not in violation of age discrimation/not meeting compliance.
This whole process was well crafted to SCR**W the employees. The leadership now can convince the shareholders tyey doing a "bng" up job!!! Guess what?? More performance bonus and stock options for granny Meg and all executives to sail to the golden sunset in their pockets...
Anyone confirm this rumor? Did it happen? I guess there will be a fair amount of duplication as they move into MicroFocus
You'll be living in mommys basement once meg whips everyone to death
What a juvenile post...good grief. Go back to mommy's basement and get on your gamer console to blow off a lil steam. Let the adults have a conversation here.
HPE s---s and you all will soon be starving.
or stupid.... one or the other.
yep. Hope that you are not in that circumstance. You sound very immature.
To the person who wrote good the arcsight team was useless ! You have no idea then what they did or how hard they worked ! Shame on you I hope your family is never left in this position trying to figure everything out ! You have no idea what those managers did, the time they put in or how much they really did for the damn company!
USA
What region are these managers located?
Good the arcsight team was useless at HPE
True. Two Arcsight section managers are WFR'd.