Thread regarding Zenith Education Group layoffs

The Real Reason Career Schools are Closing

Why is it that career technical schools and their graduates done so well through the 80s, 90s and the beginning of the 2000s but are failing at a tremendous rate over the last 5 years? For the answer you only need to look at the followers of the Socialist, Bernie Sanders. The millennials have flocked to him like he is a messiah because he speaks their language, "Entitlement". He tells them they do not have to work hard for what they want, it should be given to them. He tells them that the people who worked 18 hour days, 365 days a year for years on end to create success for themselves should now hand over most of what they have worked so hard for to the ones that want to sit around smoking dope and playing video games all day. He tells them that anyone who has a different opinion from them should not be allowed to voice their opinion. He tells them that they are not responsible for their actions, everyone else is. He tells them that they are not responsible for their own success, the government is. These millennials do want to work hard or put in the time and effort to become successful in live because socialists like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren tell them they shouldn't have to, it should be handed to them. Why would anyone want to spend the time to go to school to learn a career when they are sitting around waiting for the government hand outs. The career schools are failing because there is a lack of students that are willing to put the time in that it takes to actually learn something.

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Post ID: @OP+IBiN73n

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F--- you and f--- Sanders! How's that

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Post ID: @5qfg+IBiN73n

Many in your age bracket are finding difficulty finding decent paying jobs. It's not your degree, it's your age. No employer will ever tell you the truth because it's age discrimination so they blame it on something else. I have friends that own businesses and they tell me when they are looking to hire they concentrate on the 35 to 50 age bracket. They say over 55 will not be worth the investment because they won't get more than 10 years from them under under 30 they don't have a very good work ethic. I'm not bashing you because I'm in the same situation as you. I lost my good paying job after 18 years at the age of 58 and had a heck of a time finding employment. I had to settle for a job paying less than half of what I was making.

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Post ID: @3hum+IBiN73n

You are grossly ignorant on this subject. Like many others who responded, I worked full time while going to Florida Metropolitan University, a Corinthian College.

I enrolled at age 57 believing if I got a degree that I would improve my chances of getting a higher paying job. Being close to retirement age I knew that my Social Security would be based on my earnings. After working over 40 yrs in low paying jobs I knew I would not be able to live comfortably.

I was assured that there were many local businesses "just waiting to hire FMU graduates. " Imagine my shock when after sending out hundreds of resume's and not getting responses. At one point I walked into a business and filled out a job application. I got an interview, but not the job. Guess what I learned! I was told my degree was worthless because FMU was not regionally accredited. That was a surprise to me because at my enrollment interview I was told they were accredited. If not we couldn't grant you loans.

I along with thousands of others were defrauded by these 4 profit schools. All we are asking for is what we are legally entitled. If these schools had not gotten greedy and felt they had to lie they would still be viable. My personal opinion is that I'd like to see public schools teach technical courses again.

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Post ID: @3vgj+IBiN73n

If Hillary and the millenials get what they want, Zenith Education Group and all the other career schools will be a thing of the past. Free community and state college tuition will put all t guns ese schools out of business. Of course all the working people will see their taxes go up 10% to pay for it. Just what I want to do with my hard earned money is pay for a bunch of worthless scum to go to college. GO TRUMP

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Post ID: @1xvk+IBiN73n

The sad thing is that someone said "everyone deserves to go to college" which ignores the basic human facts that a large percentage (i.e. a bell curve)of people are stupid and can't function in college and will get nothing out of it. I know its hard to accept, but not everyone should further their formal education. A trade school or simply going to work is their best bet. Thinking everyone should go to college flies in the face of logic and statistics. I know liberals want to ignore facts, but we are reaping the results of ignoring them. High school debt for graduates that can't use their degrees.

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Post ID: @1cby+IBiN73n

To @IBiN73n-1lmt,

They are simply failing because the degrees are worthless and the students they mostly recruit should never be in college.

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Post ID: @1npa+IBiN73n

To @IBiN73n-ojf,

You seem intelligent, how could you not know an Everest degree was worthless. The classes don't transfer, the degree is not worth the paper its printed on, you would have done better buying a phony degree off the internet, it would have cost $20.00 and about the same worth. I just don't get those shocked they can't get a job with these degrees. Go to a community college in your home town, its cheaper and means something. Oh wait, you might have to actually do the work.

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Post ID: @1kxo+IBiN73n

"What the industry needs is a good old fashion recession." No matter who is elected President a recession is coming. Layoffs happen, people retrain for another career that isn't as volatile as their previous career. At least this time ZEG appears to be concerned with student outcomes than CCI ever was.

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Post ID: @1lmt+IBiN73n

OP: Interesting theory . You're overthinking this. Career schools are failing in large part due to simple economics: the law of Supply and Demand. Outrageous school success in the 90's and early 2000's led to existing school chains over-expanding and new schools popping up. All was good, especially during the economic downturn from 2008-2010. Once the economy improved, there were fewer potential students out of worked who were motivated to go to school to effect a change in their lives. Enrollment began to decline, but schools had bloated cost structures to account for and shareholders to please. Thus began the downward spiral of continuously reducing (eliminating?) admissions and matriculation standards in an effort to attract and retain students. Throw in a healthy dose of unethical/illegal recruiting and placement practices and the result is a toxic, no-value product, further accelerating the decline in enrollment. The net is too many schools trying to attract a rapidly shrinking pool of capable, interested potential students. That, in a nutshell, is why ZEG has classes that are (sparsely) populated by incapable and unmotivated quasi-students. ZEG is past scraping the bottom of the barrel and is now dealing with what leaked out and rotted on the floor. For ZEG, the cycle will end when student population dwindles to a level that all schools are in teach out, saving the DOE from massive debt forgiveness. Other schools will have to ride out the current trend if they can, or close. What the industry needs is a good old fashion recession.

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Post ID: @1fkm+IBiN73n

If you worked for over 30 years you are not a millennial. And for the grammar police, it's wrote not written.

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Post ID: @sxj+IBiN73n

Yep there's all the Bernie followers. I want everything for FREE

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Post ID: @juw+IBiN73n

This is to the Coward, who written this article without using their name “ANONYMOUS”

I’m not sure where you got your information to be able to call us the entitlement crowd, but let me open your eyes with a little knowledge.

I have worked for 30-plus years in public service, including in Private security, Texas Army National Guard, Texas Department of Corrections, Texas State Guard. (TXSG) In fact.

I had a full-time job, and going to school and also served the great state of Texas in time of emergency for the last ten years plus for “FREE” Yes free how is that for your entitlement CROWD dumb a--.

I worked for free to help out fellow Texans in time of Emergencies for more than ten years. And the D.O.E and these 4Profits schools screw me over and thousands of others like me.

While lining their pockets with our money, the taxpayer’s money, and the company goes bankrupt takes all the profits they screw everyone out of and live happy ever after and was done with the help of the one group that we thought we could depend on to do what was right and that’s to protect us from these predatory scam's school.

Also they written the law were we could not sue them or file bankruptcy wow talking about chicken sh-- scam artist.

No matter, they help them and then fine those millions of dollars. You know the money; they screw everyone out of.

They got their cut of the money and haul a-- back under the f---ing rock they crawled out of under and excuse me if I don’t give a sh-- on what you think.

Unlike your weak a-- I’ll put my name on this.

Paul E Hicks

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Post ID: @fim+IBiN73n

I will tell you why career technical schools did (a little better) with graduates in the 80's and 90's. Because our business economy did not know any better. They thought they were getting students that could do the work. But now the real truth comes out the fraud and lies to draw innocent poverty stricken people to better themselves. These students pay way to much for an education that is not worthy of the standards needed in today's working world. Most are worse off than before they started. Too many con-artist taking cuts and not enough of the profit put into the actual education of students. Instead they gave employees bonuses for who could con the most students in enrolling. It become about quantity rather than quality. Now there are thousands of students in debt who cannot get a suitable job to pay back there loans. Has nothing to do with working hard, these students would love to have a job making enough money to pay back there loans and have things. Most if not just about all live in poverty on food stamps and cannot get a job that pays over minimum wage.

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Post ID: @ohe+IBiN73n

What an ignorant comment. I worked full time at a job while doing 20 units a quarter AND doing an internship at the same time to complete my AS in a year just so I didn't owe the government more than I could pay since I was wanting to switch careers after being laid off. I still got the shaft when Heald didn't do sh-- in trying to assist me in getting a job in my field of study. I submitted hundreds of resumes with not one phone call for an interview because employers knew these for profit colleges were a joke. If I had known beforehand that Heald was a ripoff school I would never have enrolled.

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Post ID: @ejw+IBiN73n

It's obvious by all the grammatical errors contained in your post that you did not bother to continue past a 7th grade education, so this might go right over your head. When you lump everyone in the same group and assume that there is no difference you are just an uneducated biased media influenced brain washed rant loving individual, with no educational basis or credibility. Career schools are failing because they are power hungry corporations only interested in making a dollar off the backs of hard working students whom they use to profit from. You are probably one of the unqualified teachers they hire under this fraud and you are pissed you lost a job you are obviously not qualified to have. Next time do your homework, use a spell check and learn something. Get the hell outta here with that bull!

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Post ID: @sbm+IBiN73n

The Asshat who written this article did not have the guts to used their name speaks volume of their charter.

Paul E Hicks

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Post ID: @xmz+IBiN73n

It's because people have finally realized something wasn't right. How the hell could an education cost over 200,000.00, for a bachelor degree, mind you. Oh, and no job, not anywhere near close to the field in which you studied. For profits are going down, they're scams, and ways for these corporations to get rich off of students.

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Post ID: @nka+IBiN73n

I have your ENTITLEMENT.... how about an Associated Degree that cost me close to $50,000!! How about no employer will even give me an interview? How about I am NOT the only one? I busted my butt to make good grades, made the President and Dean's list every term, but I can't get a job after applying for 100's and 100's of jobs. I never had an issue getting a job until AFTER I went to Everest College under Corinthian Colleges. Maybe before you run your pie hole about something you know nothing about, you do your homework. Why don't you Google Corinthian College complaints and see just how many stories are out there? We are real people, with real debt, who can't even get jobs in the fields we worked so hard for. So STFU!!

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Post ID: @ojf+IBiN73n

@IBiN73n, I take it that you haven't studied economics...or political science...or history...or sociology...or psychology.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/reforming-americas-dysfunctional-safety-net-dahn-shaulis?trk=mp-author-card

What's your job?

Have you heard of projection?

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