We need a better Union. We Need a Union that Represents Us
Not the interest of Boeing. We need to be more involved.
Removing the Executive Director is a good start to rebuild Our Union.
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@2ciwe+12ELGUyi over time, old timers retired, younger folks started to outnumber them. Therefore, more younger voters.
Younger members are about the NOW, they do not understand "delayed gratification". Its a lost concept.
So, younger members voted to get $15K NOW instead of a pension LATER.
As far as I can tell the IAM doesn't negotiate a damn thing. Boeing tells them what they are going to do and the IAM bends over and takes it. Sad excuse for a union. How did it get to this point? Any old-timers care to educate me on that?
The key comment in the article below is as follows:
We are targeting Monday, May 18, and we are collaborating with state governments and union partners.
The UAW does NOT let its members go into an unsafe environment. The IAM doesn't care about you, just your dues.
Vote out IAM and in UAW
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2020/05/05/gm-uaw-members-restart-production-dates/5173543002/
We don't need new leadership in this union. IAM has been screwing us for long enough.
We need a new union, a stronger union. One that thinks of the people they represent rather than their boats and vacation homes.
Now, assuming the rank and file is smart enough to do this (I am, and I am ready to vote), DON'T be stupid and vote the same sh–ty leadership into the new union.
Waiting for the chance to get real representation.
Whats wrong bro, you don't like Holden Strong?
He bargains under your behalf, then raises your dues monthly.
Just like when he bargained the PSAR and the 112 hour rule now in place and didn't let you vote on it.
It's funny really...
Unions sign a contract to get paid a wage with raises on contractual schedule of a certain percentage. Performance Does not matter except is certain circumstances. When union folks get raises or a bonus (like the blood money they recieved as of the beginning of the year, just like the BoD). They crow about how "they have a contract" and non-union folks be damned. When they get raises and non-union don't they arrogantly say "well you did not choose to be in a union"
However, when non-union folks do better or get a bonus or a bigger raise, the union cries foul. This is union busting, it's not fair, we are victims. Well, the only think you are victims of is signing the contract.
See a contract is set in stone of a period of time. In industry, things change year to year, sometimes month to month. Unions end up stuck in a deal that may not work to their benefit 1 or 2 years from the signing date. It is what it is. Go cry in your mom's basement. Just like employees have the right under the law to vote in a union, they also have the right to vote a union out.
Those are the rules.
Re-move Ray Goforth the SPEEA executive director.
Why is he doing his Job the pilots don't think so
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/with-heavy-need-for-737-max-training-pilots-ahead-boeing-pilots-ask-to-decertify-union/
SPEEA executive director Ray Goforth said Boeing management’s attempt
to “bust the bargaining unit … has poisoned the relationship (with SPEEA)
for the foreseeable future.”
He described Boeing’s pay raise for nonunion pilots as a ploy to
“bribe the pilots into decertifying the union.”
Boeing “told our pilots they have to decertify the unit to get the
same pay increase,” he added.
Boeing spokesman Paul Bergman denied any such interference by
management with its employees’ right to be in a union.
Such a maneuver could be an illegal unfair-labor practice under federal law.
He said the petition to leave the union was filed by “a group of individual
employees and was not initiated, requested or encouraged by Boeing management.”
A person familiar with the details said 70% of the SPEEA pilot-bargaining
unit signed the petition requesting a vote, well above the necessary 30%
threshold, strongly suggesting that the outcome will go against the union.
NLRB regional director Ron Hooks said Monday that once the agency
confirms the petition attained the threshold, a vote of the pilots on
whether to decertify the union is likely to be scheduled “within weeks.”
The Blood Money Remark has been around for a good 3 months.
I have a sense it just Reverse psychology
There is an agenda here; it's not the employees that matter.
Many of us will be working at Boeing long after the ones responsible for the Max
Are gone and far beyond any contrived disdain.
Complain about execs taking bonuses, but it's ok when you get them.
Contract or not, its blood money. If you truly feel what Boeing did was criminal, you are taking money from criminals.
Their bonuses are our bonuses it’s part of our contract
Corporate management slammed the ball on their own spiked shoes.
We did our job. Many of our engineers in our union warned management
Do Not Do MCAS this way, we will lose aircraft.
Our engineers are not Management, so what do they know?
Their just union people.
Boeing has been losing money for 9 months, but the Union gets bonuses.
I guess they have more in common with execs and the BoD than we thought
https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2020/01/02/boeing-machinists-get-2019-bonus-despite-woes.html
https://www.eurasiareview.com/01012020-robert-reich-the-sham-of-corporate-social-responsibility-oped/
The Sham Of Corporate Social Responsibility
Workers lose benefits and Jobs so Share holders can make Bank while CEO’s
Take home Millions Each Year
Boeing recently fired CEO Dennis Muilenburg in order “to restore confidence
in the Company moving forward as it works to repair relationships with
Regulators, Customers, and all other Stakeholders.”
The employees are not Stakeholders
Some 50,000 GM workers then staged the longest auto strike in 50 years.
They won a few wage gains but didn’t save any jobs. Meanwhile,
GM’s stock has performed so well that Barra earned $22 million last year.
The employees are not Stakeholders
https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton1/2020/12/30/the-problem-with-suing-boeing-for-its-737-max-consequences/#6d6d765019b6
It is a calculated risk for a 737 MAX buyer to sue Boeing.
No matter how right the purchaser is found to be, it risks infuriating Boeing
In a best case scenario. Worse is the lawsuit against Boeing from Dublin-based
Lessor Timaero Ireland Ltd., a subsidiary of Russia’s state-owned VEB Leasing JSC
“No matter how right the purchaser is found to be” > in other words
(You’re Right, but you’ll Be Dead Right)
Boeing Thuggery has been steeping on the necks of people and companies
Long Enough, Break Them Up
Fight For Change in Union Leadership
The biggest business con of 2019: fleecing workers while bosses get rich
12/29/2019
https://www.opednews.com/articles/The-biggest-business-con-o-by-Robert-Reich-Amazon_Boeing_Corporate_Money-191229-357.html
Fight for your unions. Us non union folks, we will get no raise or bonus this year. Just the pain of “more with less” while they continue to chop away at our benefits
Dennis Muilenburg’s Golden Parachute – @azv
Whatever happened to Claw Backs. If you Don't, this kind of misconduct will
Continue and more than likely get worse. When does it stop?
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/12/24/former-boeing-ceo-dennis-muilenburg-fired-60-million-dollar-golden-parachute/
But public filings show Muilenburg could be entitled to a benefit plan
worth more than $30 million and, potentially, a severance payment of
about $7 million. Muilenburg also has another $20 million-plus worth of
vested stock and a pension package totaling more than $11 million.
This is Unconscionable
No Easy Options when Starting Over; Who is Right for the Job.
https://gulfnews.com/business/aviation/boeings-incoming-ceo-has-more-than-a-737-to-fix-1.68651663
Boeing also faces daunting product-development decisions –
starting with when to replace the Max and whether to go forward
with a midsized jet to counter the A321neo. Those calls will be difficult
for a newcomer to Boeing’s executive ranks with no engineering
background
Who Can We Find To Replace Union Leadership
Executive Director or CEO U still have to Find a Fit
All these guys get a golden parachute/ handshake/ whatever you want to call it. I guarantee you Kevin McAllister got more than 2 turtle doves from Duncan’s Toy Chest if you catch my drift
A lay off fund? Sure. Its called collecting unemployment. lol
Of course they line there pockets , and the common folk get a ham.lol. Really have nobody but yourself to blame , for working for a huge money grubbing company.
More like a platinum parachute.
Dennis Muilenburg’s Golden Parachute
His eventual payout could reach as high as $58.5 million depending on
the final terms of his departure and the company's performance during
the next three years.
Muilenburg is entitled to a pension that pays him a little over $807,000
Annually, according to the most recent filings.
The pension had a cash value of $13.2 million as of the end of last year.
He also had 39,506 shares of Restricted Stock that are currently worth
another $13.3 million, according to the documents filed.
We get Less and Less - While they get More and More
And still they ask us to Give More, just a little More
It’s in the best interests on the company to keep us sound
Do You Think he will chip in for our Layoff Fund
The Board of Directors Must Go