Thread regarding SAP layoffs

Layoffs to be used to show Joule efficiency at Sapphire

SAP has been keeping a close eye on how Joule and AI agents are being used within the company. They also track the time employees spend and the links they click on SAP product pages. Layoffs are on the horizon, and they’ll be viewed positively if they demonstrate AI efficiency. It’s easier for the executive board and HR to justify cutting 10% of the workforce by claiming that Joule has made us more efficient. This narrative is the best SAP can present at Sapphire. To enhance this story, Sapphire's theme revolves around two main points. First, we have a wealth of data on employee performance, which is stored in a global repository for decision-making. Performance Management majes it easier of course. Second, AI can analyze raw data to generate insights and recommendations that boost operational efficiency. Although these algorithms are complex, AI agents simplify resource management for 'managers' because of their conversational skills. Now, here’s the kicker: SAP has improved efficiency by reducing its workforce by 10%. That’s a significant win for the Sapphire narrative. In fact, over the past few months, SAP has been promoting SuccessFactors AI and HR-related application AI, with management constantly focusing on operational efficiency.

So why is there skepticism about layoffs? Our executive board has openly stated their desire for layoffs and aims to make the transition tough for employees. The funds for executive bonuses and share buybacks aren’t coming from customers, so they have to come from the workforce. Since customers aren’t buying into the narrative, SAP needs to provide the proof using substantial layoffs. That is the only way the share price will go up and some gullible customers will help improve SAP's cloud backlog.


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@ay SAP has never planned longterm solutions over the past few years. They’re too busy trying to stay competitive with no new innovations for decades, then wonder why customers leave. The company has been riding their ERP reputation and doesn’t know how to manage money. Investors finally figured this out in the last earning call.

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Post ID: @19j+1kp8rhbcj

@zx That was p2024 and that was the voluntary but a lot more involuntary and the 10k was hit.

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Post ID: @106+1kp8rhbcj

Well as I remember, CK originally wanted to lay off 10k and only 3k quit using the voluntary retirement program. And CK and DA have been saying 1-2% every year. So it is not irrational to assume that they want the 1-2% AND the 7% that were earmarked for cuts but found another role at SAP.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/23/sap_staff_cuts/

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Post ID: @zx+1kp8rhbcj

@en I've never heard that, 1-2% dental hygiene is all I have heard in meetings

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Post ID: @jg+1kp8rhbcj

@eb not the OP but DA has been saying 10 percent in many company calls, isn't it?

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Post ID: @en+1kp8rhbcj

@ea Where are you getting the 11,000 number from?

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Post ID: @eb+1kp8rhbcj

This is not news. DA has said this many times in many interviews. Also, the layoff number is expected to be around 11000. It's just that so many SAP employees engage in politicking and drink the koolaid that they are safe. The truth is that millionaire executives do not care about the average employee. And they will not stop till they have extracted every Euro that they can move from the company accounts to their personal bank accounts through bonuses.

SAP’s C-suite admits that AI could significantly slash its 110,000-strong workforce—and its CFO Dominik Asam says he 'will be brutal' in the process.
https://fortune.com/2025/09/24/sap-cfo-dominik-asam-320-billion-software-firm-ai-allow-workforce-reduction-but-if-done-wrong-could-be-business-catastrophe/

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Post ID: @ea+1kp8rhbcj

The stock market loves mass layoffs. Maybe the SAP share price will reach €150 again when these are announced. And then before the end of the year, we will see SAP at below €100. CK and DA are supported by narcissistic sycophant executives who only want to see the world burn. The executive board and most executives and L1 and L2 are already millionaires. They have no empathy towards customers or employees. And now they do not even care about the fiduciary duty towards shareholders. It is just a game for them now. Lay off employees and see them suffer. Or hint at layoffs and keep employees scared and see them suffer. It is a power trip.

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Post ID: @ct+1kp8rhbcj

It's a crazy workflow
Companies are pushing/forcing engineers to implement massively AI into all their workflows not to increase productivity (as they say) but to teach AI how to replace them.

Either way engineers are scre..d

If they don't do it, they're punished and if they do it they end up fired.

AI increased workload as engineers are taking more tasks, more areas of code (even the parts that they're not experts on with the excuse that AI knows the code)

Don't need to be a genius to see that this will end badly for engineers : forget work/life balance
forget long term projects
forget stability

More stress !

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Post ID: @ch+1kp8rhbcj

Joule is a steaming pile of reheated IBM junk that takes an age to start to give half arsed answers slowly that I could do far easier by just going to the respective lobs app and doing it myself. If they think that it's actually going to make anyone more productive then they are all high on their own farts and the company is in even worse shape than I thought

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Post ID: @cg+1kp8rhbcj

For layoffs, you're forgetting internal politics matter more than performance management.

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Post ID: @bn+1kp8rhbcj

Here’s one for the GenXers-maybe this is true and the supervisory Board is also going to introduce Max Headroom as our new CEO. He’s sure to have far fewer vocal flubs than CK.

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Post ID: @b4+1kp8rhbcj

If the executive board and executives at SAP and HR are really trying this, I think they are wrong. Our customers are not that stupid. No one will ever believe that the layoffs are due to operational efficiency due to AI. Everyone knows that the layoffs are due to the declining share price. The executive board and executives at SAP have no solutions on how to get the share price up besides parroting more bull about AI and massive layoffs. If they were smart enough to come up with any realistic longterm solutions, SAP would not be in this state right now. But there is no hope with these 1di0ts at the helm.

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Post ID: @ay+1kp8rhbcj

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-J2B60ziw3s

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