Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Buckle up folks

IBM will continue layoffs until it finds a business model that works and works reliably for many years. For the last two decades, Software, Hardware, and Services have taken turns playing the IBM not-me game. I won’t make profit, but I will amplify that other team which will directly own your profit. Without my synergy, you will surely fail, so you must keep me. Every couple years, a new profit maker is anointed and a new round of the game begins.

Even if they find a model, it needs to work reliably for many years. Not so long ago at the beginning of Watson (AI), a Watson kick-off meeting was held in Austin for the entire Watson management team. The business plan presented would rapidly accelerate to stratospheric heights in 3 or better yet 2 years and remain there for 20-30 years before starting a gradual and still profitable decline. Commoditization utterly destroyed this plan and business in 18 months. Models fail even faster in 2025.

In a world of cheap vanilla-grade CPUs, RAM, networking, and storage and completely free software, it’s hard to find a higher grade product that people will pay for outside of regulated businesses. And those who do unquestionably need the value add point to the cheap stuff and demand lower pricing. And the cowards in sales fear losing 100% of their commission and decide that a steep discount benefits both them and their client.

This is nothing new; it’s just come to IBM’s corner of tech now. In the 80’s there was a battle between two consumer video storage systems: Betamax and VHS. The cheaper — in both senses — won out. There were superior alternatives to Compact Discs for audiophiles, but the CD wiped them off the market. MP3 audio compression is terrible, but it dominated the music streaming and download business for a long time.

All 3 of IBM’s pillars (Hardware, Services, and Software) have experienced their own versions of this. That’s why they play not-me. IBM has 3 future strategies. Hybrid Cloud, which can’t sustain an IBM-sized business. AI which is already deep into the commoditization spiral and has as an industry accumulated over a trillion dollars in debt. IBM has already stepped off the AI stage, preferring to serve as high-end salesmen for partners’ actual products packaged up with an IBM bow. Quantum Computing: how many non-governmental clients will actually need this capability badly enough to shoulder some risk, finance the development costs, and pay ongoing support. Quantum computing could be the opening for IBM to become the CocaCola Bottling company of tech — providing a low-profit product that makes others fabulously wealthy.

Until these things change, IBM will have to undergo periodic amputations. When it ends in one or more passes through Bankruptcy Court, then we will discover how bad things can get.

A once failing tech company called Apple righted itself for a while by leaving the tech industry and joining the fickle fashion industry. Is there another industry where centenarian IBM might fit well?

Buckle up folks … and prepare for turbulence for the duration of the flight.

Perfectly said, @tq+1kb1metdd.


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Post ID: @OP+1kbdp23q1

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IBM just enhanced the buy innovative SW vs develop it, with the purchase of Confluent.

NOTE Confluents integration with mainframe

Confluent and Mainframe Integration
Confluent's technology has a direct application in modernizing and integrating with IBM's mainframe (zSystems) environment. Confluent's platform enables the following for mainframe users:
Real-Time Data Access: It allows for the real-time capture and streaming of data from mainframes to other cloud-based systems and applications, reducing reliance on outdated batch processing.
Cost Optimization: The solution uses IBM's zSystems Integrated Information Processor (zIIP) to offload data processing, which can significantly reduce processing costs and optimize the return on investment (ROI) of existing mainframe infrastructure.
Modernization: Confluent helps enterprises build modern, resilient streaming applications that can interact with core mainframe data, making mainframes a critical part of a hybrid data architecture.

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Post ID: @18n+1kbdp23q1

@zg I think IBM has found the proper business model, and it revolves exclusively around mainframe. IBM is slowly but surely shrinking everything else via offshoring and cost take out. We used to call this saving your way to prosperity. The problem with just focusing on mainframe is the company can’t afford to invest in anything else and as a result has to shrink dramatically.
Let’s go to the score board to verify
SW = Has moved to an acquisition innovation model focused on mainframe. Buy it, don’t develop it. Make money by becoming a distributor worldwide
Infrastructure = Has moved to mainframe model only. HW design = mainframe, chip design = mainframe, hybrid cloud = focused on mainframe. Everything else is being starved. Power 11 is a meh and the results prove it. Power 12 is down to a skeleton crew and will never see the light of day. Storage is exclusively focused on mainframe. Cloud is slowly being partnered out to more nimble companies except for the mainframe. What’s left? TSS Most of TSS will be sold/partnered off when IBM finds a scaleout partner for infrastructure. Does this look like a replay of the Intel server selloff? You bet it does.
Consulting = Has focused on mainframe modernization and all of its iterations. Who says? The CEO and CFO on every quarterly earnings call. Farm the mainframe install base as we have a monopoly. Code modernization, repetitive task automation, integrating acquired SW into mainframe operations, offering mainframe services and operations (easy to due when you own the HW and SW), partnering with any AI company that can move your mainframe narrative forward. You don’t see any innovation or engagement coming out of consulting unless it’s centered on mainframe and that innovation is usually developed by a partner. Eg the result is little to zero growth, thus cost take out mostly via offshoring has to be the focus if you are trying to deliver profits and free cash flow. As such look for IBM to continue to shrink in first world countries, as it moves operations to third world countries for the lower labor rates. This will work for a while, but as you move further and further away from your customers, there will be blow back and gradually your customers will fade away.

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Post ID: @13w+1kbdp23q1

I agree with @xh. IBM will never find a proper business model.

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Post ID: @zg+1kbdp23q1

@OP:

IBM will not find a profitable business model anytime soon simply because IBM no longer has any products to sell to customers. IBM has become a corporation that exists solely for the purpose of being a corporation.

The only real products that IBM still has are the mainframes. That's not enough to sustain a bloated carcass of IBM's size.

Vaporware, Quantum Spin and Profound Thoughts on AI aren't products. One can get these for free from Google searches.

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Post ID: @xh+1kbdp23q1

@az and the beatings will continue until morale improves.

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Post ID: @cw+1kbdp23q1

With 200,000, and growing, IBM people In India perhaps IBM's future is providing "support" via chat and phone for Costco, BJ's, Amazon, CVS, Di-k's, Chipoptle etc but it is NOT in MAKING and SELLING TECH. IBM stopped making things 4-1-93 when the G Man Gerstner came in and wrote a check for $3,500,000,000 for Lotus. Since 2,000 IBM has bought approx 200 companies. IBM Is now like walking into the Home Depot Plumbing aisle with commodity widgets all mixed up in the wrong bins.

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Post ID: @az+1kbdp23q1

So all these acquisitions were failures you’re saying ?

But in all Seriousness Alvind should be canned for his botched Red Hat negotiations

34 Billion Dollars for that giant mess

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Post ID: @a9+1kbdp23q1

What is IBM ? IBM successes relied on pillars, the strongest pillar was the recherche and development. Executives and management used to rise from the technical field.
In recent years, Executives and Upper management is hired from business schools, these people have no technical background. Technical people became slide makers and meetings organizers, thus, mediocrity became the rule.
IBM is at the end of the road, slow death and embarrassment.

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Post ID: @a4+1kbdp23q1

@OP+
Waste management??

Since IBM's been working on quantum for 20 years, maybe they can actually do something with it. But they'll never replicate the mainframe. Never.

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