Manager asked to provide a copy of resume. I guess if there's a possibility to transfer to another group?
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No love for the engineers... perhaps you ran into a bad one or two, sorry to hear that. But the truth is an engineering degree is far more valuable than being a "mechanic" at Boeing in a layoff situation in which you have to find employment elsewhere. Mechanics need engineers and engineers need mechanics, the end. I feel for anyone that gets a layoff notice, good luck.
@1tn oh come on now you are supposed to be a smart 4yr degree person so stop acting like a child. And before you get laid off write me that NC after I explain to you what to put in it and how to fix the problem. 😘
Anyone got any popcorn?
We have a mechanic with a high school education and the equivalent of a two year degree vs an engineer rated in the bottom 20% of engineers at Boeing (R3).
This is like a slap fight.
If mechanics are so smart, why didn't they become engineers?
@ygf+14TYbOHT Because the senior execs do not want engineers to make decisions. They want to relay their orders through the managers.
If you are an R3, we don't want you in our group either. Most managers don't want R3s. It's one of the few things managers do right.
@dnu: What percentage of employees are in the R3 category depends on a lot of things. The usual practice is that some R2s get bumped to R3s and a lot of cheaper R3s get bumped to R2s during the reviews...so unless you are an R1, you really have no idea about your outlook. Based on your tone, you sound like a union lackey to me, trying to calm down the herd to collect your dues; good luck with that. Lord Calhoun has special plans for the union lackeys (and the managers too).
If engineers are so smart why do they need managers? 🤷🏻♂️
They're the bottom 20% of the retention. It's right in the contract which you can go read on the SPEEA website. If your skill code got a decent amount of VLOs, those R3's will probably be fine.
More non-Boeing employees on this website again!
R3s are usually the bottom 5-10% of the retention pool. It is expected that most (if not all) of R3s will get WARNs on the first round.
Northeast Airlines doesn’t exist and therefore doesn’t buy any planes 🤯
Southwest Airlines sells its Max deathtraps, cancels orders for new deathtraps
The prerequisites for all eng pos @ B are extensive in their advertizing for
A reason, in times like this you have to be way over qualified