https://www.notebookcheck.net/Snapdragon-X-Elite-vs-Intel-Core-Ultra-and-Apple-M3-Qualcomm-s-SoC-reportedly-excels-in-efficiency-and-outperforms-Meteor-Lake.822152.0.html
More market share losses ahead as Qualcomm will provide Apple levels of battery life and efficiency for windows laptops.
AMD is also prepping for zen5 ahead of Intel’s Arrow lake.
Now even fewer wafers will run through Intel’s beleaguered fabs.
The Windows customers are competing to Apple silicon, not Intel deficient silicon anymore. This may help them to compete in the future and dump Intel all together.
Microsuck will probably have a smart phone soon finally to compete with Apple. Intel is left out on the racing track side way.
Microsoft is confident Windows on Arm could finally beat Apple / After years of issues, the upcoming Qualcomm chips might be a big moment for Windows on Arm.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/8/24116587/microsoft-macbook-air-surface-arm-qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite
Someone was saying Microsoft doesn’t support Qualcomm?
Drink more of that hopium.
Intel is in serious danger.
ARM taking away x86 customers like its nobody's business
@xsn+1rVi2ebW - maybe you didn't see this in 2021: https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2021/03/qualcomm-completes-acquisition-nuvia
The Snapdragon X Elite is Real
https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/300449/the-snapdragon-x-elite-is-real
lol, it’s going to be fun seeing Intel under siege in 2024
@1bol
It’s not a matter of Microsoft leaving Intel.
Microsoft wants as many merchant silicon vendors as possible and will support everyone as it’s in their interests to support as many hardware platforms as possible.
The reality is that Intel now has real competition in the windows space. It will be judged on the merits of the platform.
Early indications show wins on perf and power constrains perf (laptops). Windows users are hungry for Apple-silicon levels of performance which deliver all day battery life in thin fanless form factors. Good luck to Intel competing on those metrics.
Intel has more employees than many of these companies combined. Heck Intel probably has more integrators and PM's than engineers in those companies. They will stand no chance in out-engineering Intel. Apple was a unique case as they are fully vertically integrated. Do you all think MSFT and OEM's will ever leave a battle-tested Intel and go with an unproven supplier?
Intel id--ts don’t even understand how Apple and Qualcom are scaling up their mobile SoC to take over its PC market. Suddenly, everyone starts to jump soon.
ARM Windows and ARM MacOS are the current and future of modern consumer devices for low power which saves energy. Intel x86 architect devices are old school and soon to be obsoleted.
@xsn
Perhaps you missed the mobile SOC revolution along with everyone at Intel?
You seem to be living in a cave where it’s always 1999 along with your Intel lifer buddies.
Qualcomm and Apple have decades of mobile SOC experience which they have leveraged into the adjacent PC market. The CPU is just another IP block in the SOC. Perf is just a ‘choice’ you make in the design process traded off against other goals. Once you have a process lead via TSMC, it’s game over once they aim their g-ns at you.
You sound like the Nokia execs that said - oh, those people at Apple can’t just build a phone. Same vibes here.
@xsn
Famous last words.
Qualcomm design team was poached from Apple which does have decades of CPU know-how.
Another data point. AMD was literally 200 times smaller than Intel at one point and still came out on top.
Apple, of course, has already passed Intel in perf and perf/watt.
Intel’s competitive advantage in CPUs is vaporized. Especially when the competition can now compete with much better transistors from TSMC.
@xsn - what’s funny is my old manager said the exact same thing about Apple back in the Skylake days. “No way they can do it, Intel has the experience and talent”. But then rumors started circulating that Apple had found more bugs in Skylake than Intel’s own validation teams
Apple got lucky…Nvidia got lucky…AMD got lucky…next Qualcomm will get lucky. What will it take for you to realize the competition is simply better than you?
Listen, look at your managers - LTM. How many of them actually build a computer in the last two yrs? Do they even knw how? This is what I am talking about..they are ALL CLUELESS ID--TS
Is there anything that intel is winning? Too bad the data didn't include prices but that wouldn't have boded well for Intel either. ARM will eat into the market share of both Intel and AMD. Does Intel even have a new architecture to replace x86 in development? It is hard to comprehend how a company could have what seemed like insurmountable leads on everything from product design through manufacturing and then just let it dwindle away in the span of a few decades. It's like they have been following the Sears and Roebuck business plan since 2000. From the best in the industry to now being a company that barely merits a participation award.
There is no way any company with no history of consumer CPU's can come up with something against Intel on their first attempt. They may have a sniff of a chance if they keep trying for 10 - 15 years... maybe like Apple. And even that will cost them billions upon billions that they don't have. Intel just has far more firepower - IDM, CPU design talent and most important, deep relationships with OEM's to outgun them.