I heard most employees will get 50% to 80% of the 130%.
Why work hard and do everything you are asked to do and still receive a subpar bonus and a small increase just to get bent over year after year.
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@7be That wasn't me (20th time?). Maybe we should just talk like grown-ups..... Honestly, this needs to stop.
@vc what a sad and frankly pathetic outlook on life. You obviously perceive yourself as being burnt many times. You need some sort of counseling. Seek help
I think of it like this, I think what HR is trying to tell us is that we regularly overachieve too much, if a met met gets 85%, that’s the level of effort they’re looking for on average, so give it to them! I find this process an obvious intentionally demoralizing attempt to “motivate” I think it doesn’t work…. Much like the intentionally ambiguous RTO guideline, fu-k em, if the target is 70% in office I’ll do that for the days I’m supposed to be working, but if I have a vacation, sick day, vacation, I see that as an opportunity to underachieve.
As there are no published detailed guidelines, this must be the way these things work, if they wanted more they should have specified.
The new pr system is a clown show.
Announce 130 % and some people get 65 with no performance downgrade - their whole departments did it.
Look at Quality at Prototype where the LL6 is a right out tool.
90 percent was quality.
The only two boxes on review that are relevant are LHS and RHS.
All the behaviors are BS.
Only four boxes to go in.
Act of God.
Act of God.
Met Expectations.
Fell off a cliff.
China has a fifth one for them only. Saw a guy fired there. Was ugly.
Anyway ..
System is designed to sc--w us.
Next year nothing for anyone.
@vc I have a couple people I’m closer with at work, circle of trust if you will, the remainder I use misdirection.
Never ever trust your co-workers. Exceptions are workplace emergencies where people have a common need for safety. Other then that, consider everyone neutral or hostile to your goals and objectives. It is NEVER beneficial to give co-workers your personal information or give them details about your personal life...ever. Unless of course it's misdirection, but all that causes you is problems. Better to say nothing and decline or avoid giving personal details. You want to be hard for them to read - because anything you do outside of work is none of their business. I'm immediately suspicious of people who bring up personal matters and over share at work. Why? Because weather they say it or not there's an expectation that you do the same. The unwritten and unsaid law of reciprocation. Don't fall for it.
Put in the hard work for yourself at the gym, not at work. Do what it takes to keep your job. Your co-workers don't care despite your beliefs. Have you learned nothing? Otherwise keep throwing effort into the void.
The only problem with moving is that managers get emotional and butt-hurt when they think you want to leave. It becomes middle school again pretty quickly.
If you still work there you are a smooth-brained IDi0t....or just like to torture yourself. Either way you're probably the kind of person that makes bad decisions.
@s2 Most people aren’t that terrible….
the one thing this place has instilled in me is that people are complete trash, people are generally not good, it’s best to just look out for yourself and move along
@me nah man, I’ve been to the looney bin before, kindest most tight knit group of people you’ll ever meet, definitely not here
Learned the same thing pre-Ford in the early 90s but it was with overtime.
Can't tell you the number of people who would lose it when the company cut OT and you had to live on your 40.
I basically never had a raise in my paycheck for the first 15 years or so of my career at Ford because every percentage raise went directly into the 401K.
On one hand I agree totally, you don't make friends at work... at most acquaintances
On the other hand you sound like a dou--ebag so they're probably glad you would never go out with them after work.
Why?
Because I keep getting these gimmicks sent to me in the mail called bills and somebody has to pay them.
I hate ford, nothing but a looney bin, no amount of bonus can give me years of my life back - Fu-k you and your psychopathic “leaders”.
@m5 where did you learn maths
Well 90% of 130% is still 125% so I wouldn't be complaining.
It’s a cruel game. They announced 130%, however, at the LL6 level, a Met recommendation =90%. Additionally, the system has been set up to not allow as much adjustment by your LL6. So the bearer of bad news has been pushed down to the LL6s. They aren't happy about it. Info I was told today.
Met still is .90-1.1 performance factor.
That means by this poster’s logic everyone is getting inconsistent, which doesn’t math to 100% of the workforce.
Early in my career I received some good advice to never financially plan on getting paid a bonus. Bonus is basically whatever management decided to award in my option, and when I received I would just put into 401k and be thankful. You work hard for the salary you agreed to, not for the expectation of an extra bonus. If you’re no longer satisfied with your salary you are free to benchmark yourself and look elsewhere. In my Ford career I worked with a lot of professional engineering teams in which we would always help each other succeed as a group. Yes, I had a few bad experiences/ groups along the way, and there is lots of opportunity to move to new positions within the company if you need / desire new challenges. It’s what you make of it! Keep learning, growing, and challenging yourself.
What ate you hearing on merits?
@ar likewise, yes. I actually view things the same way, but I try to strike a balance as to not be taken advantage of. If there’s a reason to my free overtime I’ll do it, but otherwise try not to go over. I also differ that it’s not for my teammates necessarily, I do good work because it’s right. Though I have had teams where we had that camaraderie and you hope to do right by them. But…. I also work at GM lol
@a2 and it’s a bit ironic, I’m genz and learned this directly from seeing my boomer parents growing up. Both parents worked automotive, rarely home, but when they were, they were livid and stressed. One had to do all nighter sprints, other consistently worked weekends.
@ar - Teammates??? Are you kidding??? A lot of these teammates would stab you in the back just to get to the next level. I don't consider them good friends. I would never go out with them after hours. I just do my job and go home.
Serious as a heart attack. Every time the employee experience worsens, I employ another tactic to lower productive output and/or squander corporate resources to bring things back in line.
And no pride in work where the lion's share of the rewards go to the already bloated senior "leaders". To the contrary, pride in racking up those direct deposits in exchange for next‐to‐nothing.
Luckily, Ford's incompetence in performance management is matched only by their level of integrity so I'll be here doing my thing for a long while. So sorry if you don't like it.
@b2 What?
"Can't stand it, I know ya planned it...."
@ar And to add to that - Sabotage? Really? Pretty low class if you ask me, but I doubt you're being serious.
Don't you all try to take any pride in your work? I don't like what Ford has become either, but I'm certainly not doing the bare minimum. I kind of look at work as something like a sport, I don't work hard for the team owner, but I work hard for my teammates... If you're really slugging around you can't be happy, I wouldn't be.
@a2 I’m a Millennial who does all of those things because:
1) I don't care about the company.
2) I’m already financially set.
3) The company doesn’t care about me.
4) I simply don’t care.
Exactly!
For you and/or any kindred spirits, I can't recommend this guidebook highly enough
https://www.cia.gov/static/5c875f3ec660e092cf893f60b4a288df/SimpleSabotage.pdf
They are sc--wing us, let's sc--w them back!
gen-zs also dont take on debt, this gives them freedom to do all those things listed.
Gen-Z has figured this out.
Work Life Balance Comes First.
Never work weekends.
Never work a minute longer.
Ask for safe space and eliminate management aggression and bullying
dont care about raises and bonuses, if not taken care of, they jump ship immediately
no loyalty to anyone
it's just boomers and gen x that's still deceived by the system
gen-z has figured it out.