Thread regarding 3M layoffs

Q4 results - The mask is fully off

So, I just listened to the earnings call... what a clusterfu-k.

The lowlights:

  • They set out the first public hint of the future bankruptcy, I quote from the transcript:

"Absent the proceeds from the intended spin-off of the Health Care business, the company has not concluded how it would fund amounts due under the Public Water Supplier and Combat Arms Earplug legal settlements. Therefore, we have not included the potential impacts of changes in net debt that may be needed to fund amounts under these agreements."

  • Essentially all of the OI improvement came from SG&A reduction.
  • Free cash conversion over 100% is, by definition, not sustainable. This is a clear sign of leadership 'cashing out' the company to the detriment of the company's future.
  • International is going to be gutted, if your job is outside the roughly 10 to 15 largest economies your job is toast.
  • CBG and Corporate are looking at more cuts, probably 10% based on financials. (They should start with CHIMD's boss.)
  • Restructuring is 'how we work' - This is a sign that Monish has no clue as to actual strategy. Chaos is not a winning strategy.
  • Monish answered a question as 'when we get more volume...' when the volume forecast is essentially flat. Some smart analyst should have called him out on that.

Monish, I'm going to give you a really big hint on how to fix 3M. Repeat the below three times, then actually do it:

"We are going to actively take global market share from our competitors. We will use organic volume efficiency to maintain our current profit margins. After the spin, 3M's restructuring will be substantially complete. We will use that savings to fund aggressive growth. From now on we will only be providing guidance to investors on an annual basis, if bankers don't like it, they can sell the stock."

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3M is a failure. Unethical and dishonest. SELL IT AND NEVER OWN IT.

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It is a joke not because of 3M not knowing how to do it. Plenty of automation firms can come in and build (most of) the machines needed.

It is a joke because for the vast majority of product portfolios labor costs are a small part of COGS. (20% of COGS is my typical experience) Even cutting labor costs in half only drops COGS 10%. If a plant has to spend significant capital to do it the investment math usually does not work out.

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Post ID: @wfl+1qItJNBc

The in plant automation is a joke. No real budget and corporate has no expertise in the field..

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Post ID: @umc+1qItJNBc

Good analysis Varys. There are some good programs on manufacturing side, disruptive technology to reduce cycle times, automate and cost, but all that is in pipeline may be to little too late to help employees and shareholders, alike. Should have tried to settle Cobat arms case sooner. Still think healtcare spin will hurt parent company to much to make a difference. It's a tough pill to swallow for employees and retirees alike to see M&M systemically and planned devalue, and purge the company for there own personal gain.

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Post ID: @jcd+1qItJNBc

Poorly run company, total absence of ethics and employees are viewed as an indirect cost. The future is certain. More layoffs in short run along with weakening culture. Yes, it will get worse.
Dividend reduction in 2024. Another dividend cut in 2026 or 2027. Chapter 11 reorganization before 2029.
It's a job, collect your salary. You are a number and there is nothing wrong with that in the short run. Above all do not hold 3M stock and continue to take in every dollar they pay you.

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Post ID: @udu+1qItJNBc

Takes me back to 2022 when this blurb was published:

"Testifying before the court [2022], corporate solvency expert J.B. Heaton said he believes the lawsuits could eventually force 3M into bankruptcy.
“It is more and more likely within the next several years we’ll see a 3M bankruptcy,” Heaton said before the court, according to reporting from Bloomberg."

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Post ID: @evp+1qItJNBc

The issue with allocating more cash to growth is that it is completely unaligned to current shareholder expectation which is dividend yield. The best thing this company could do is completely hit the reset button on this expectation. It will result in short term pain, but it is the only way to get out of the death spiral

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