Please don’t sign NDA during layoffs. You will still get your severance
If you sign you will lose your opportunity to fight back
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Yes they are trying to put everyone on garden leave
They can layoff one person on one team only, they can layoff a “diversity person”, they don’t have to lay off whole teams. Not sure where you’re getting your (inaccurate) information. It doesn’t even need to be a “mass layoff”, but it would already qualify based on how many are laid off across Citi already. And they have all been given WARN payouts ( paid for non working period of 60/90 days), so Citi is in compliance. Anyone can be let go, any age, race, gender, orientation etc. as long as that’s not the reason they’re let go ( which is nearly impossible to prove btw, esp during a large layoff where folks across all protected and not protected classes get laid off ). Don’t waste your time and money and energy fighting a pointless losing battle. You’ll get your 60 or 90 day pay and benefits, then 2 weeks per year severance, option for cobra. Get on unemployment, take a minute to breathe, then get a new job
Most ridiculous thread ever. Citi isn’t going “manhandle” anyone. And the Severence package is in the employee handbook, there’s pdf outlining it. Maybe some small, non public, company might try those things. But not a giant corp in a regulated industry. There have already been thousands of layoffs this year alone. All handled the same way that these will be handled. Y’all are silly.
Here are more options to sue during RIF:
- * If you are manhandled during termination(unethical behavior)
- If your Severence package is not provided properly
- If your corba coverage is not provided
- If only you or one/two members let go during RIF and not as team (remember RIF is meant for massive layoff and not one/two)
- If you are a diversity person or >40 age
- If the Layoff process is not good (just like mental stress people are going through now)
- If your stock options are near due and you have good stock inventory. don't let them to be furloughed
- Take a snapshot of who reports to your manager and their employment history in Linkedin. If they have same employment history as your manager (previous company or consultant) and they are saved, you can file for a favoritism.
- Take care of your 401K money - retirement account balance. you can sue if it is not properly allocated.
Don't lose your RIGHT. All the best
Discrimination: If the layoff disproportionately targets a particular race, gender, age, disability, or other protected characteristic, it may be considered discriminatory and lead to a lawsuit.
So if your manager holds visa candidates and let go only US employees. You still have opportunity to Sue. If you can prove any bias or favoritism in layoffs you still can claim good money.
If you are h1b employee then the position is closed and they can’t hire anyone in the place.
When a massive layoff happens employers can’t file green card petitions as per law. If it happens you can sue. If company hired h1b candidate in place of us citizen you can sue.
Basically there are lots of restrictions. You can check your lawyer .
@tkv+1p8xDw1r There no "tactics by HR". HR does only what the business tells them to do. The fact that you think HR "does" anything or makes any decisions on their own shows that you take the bait... hook, line, and sinker. HR is simply an order taking center, and a scapegoat, so the business leaders can have plausible deniability and shake your hand and smile at the co-----l party you see them at, without knowing they stabbed you in the back. It's all smoke and mirrors.
People forget that this is RIF and not performance layoffs. You have more power to sue.
RIF positions cannot be filled back. At least for a time period. If management hires or promotes someone after layoff you have right to sue
Correct there is no NDA In severance agreement. Why should we sign it.
It’s a tactic by HR and managers for their protection
There won’t be any of that. Citi is eliminating roles, not people based on characteristics. Severence is mapped out in the employee handbook. So you know what you’re getting ( plus WARN if applicable). And btw, never heard of Citi including an NDA in a Severence agreement.
H1b’s can get grace period and avoid i140 cancellation
You can fight for h1b retaining, diversity and other discrimination.
Fight back? You’re employed at will. There’s nothing to fight about. Unless it’s discriminatory ( like they only laid off folks over 50), there’s nothing illegal going on. It’s a layoff.