People keep quitting, then asking if there are any openings or ways to come back. One just boomeranged after six months and said the new place had the same chaos but with worse benefits. I get it. Job hunting is a gamble, and most places are just different flavors of dysfunctional. Still doesn’t make staying here feel like a win.
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@25b I think I know who you are and kudos on getting fired, you were pretty unhappy anyways.
FYI, things are more political and management still does nothing as you said, so you're better off than here.
At SAP there is no need for politics, because you have a brillant board.
Corporate politics are not everywhere. Politics exist as a way to protect incompetent leaders. In smaller companies you have to make a meaningful contribution- there is nowhere for sub par performers to hide and good employees aren’t interested in covering for the non performers. Corporate politics infects SAP and that’s why there’s such rampant income!
The board does such a great job, I would never leave SAP.
The grass is absolutely greener! My company has leaders with integrity who understand our business, support innovation and eager for feedback. I had a terrible manager who never met with his direct reports, always talked about himself when he did and got rid of wonderful people because they threatened his job security. When you leave SAP - you realise it was dysfunctional and toxic.
Recently my manager let me go out of the blue (no issues with compliance or KPIs). Two weeks later, got an offer 70% higher with way less responsibility.
Would I go back to SAP? Well, maybe, but only in a leadership role, because, lets be honest, most of the leaderships dont do sh-t and still get payed.
Theres only two reasons to return: less work, more money.
If you take the opportunities to develop yourself while at SAP, you for sure will find a prettier world outside of it
Oracle layoffs also coming to a town near you
https://l.smartnews.com/p-lqLrxXy/5EPsde
@r8 the evolving “trade dispute” is caused by someone with a “back end loading” problem into his adult diapers. Good luck Dominik Asam
I left SAP and came back two years later for a 60% raise on TC. It still doesn’t compare to FAANG compensation but I’m happy with my pay and know how to avoid the ugly parts of the business. I can build skills here and do a targeted job search once the market heats up. With Pluralsight, the company gives you an option to level your skills up to get jobs you want. I don’t think any other company has the learning opportunities that SAP does, whether it’s through your job or through the many benefits we have.
I appreciate it much more here the second time around.
"We've seen about 3,000 people leave," Asam said. "We've rehired some people, but currently, we are probably looking for a… back-end loading to see how the situation on the trade dispute will evolve. We are talking about a cushion of several thousand employees we can play with without having any major impact."
The better question is do they get more money when they come back to SAP. The answer would be obvious. Yes! Because they leave for more money, besides when you start a new job it will be chaos for the first year. Therefore, we don’t know the circumstances.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/23/sap_staff_cuts/
Know many SAP colleagues who have come back. The grass is definitely not greener on the other side.
A lot of my friends are former SAP employees and I'm only aware of one who even considered coming back. It depends on what you're looking for and how you approach it.
Would it be just the ppl you know?
Our ex-colleagues got a pay increased by 50%+ and still are happy with their new job after 3 years
The grass is not greener. It is the person that you are reporting to that makes a difference.
Unfortunately corporate politics is everywhere and change is difficult. Why change if you don’t have to, there are enough uncertainties in life and corporations know this.
In business you need to change to stay competitive, unfortunately corporations are not looking out for the well being of employees or promotions they rightly deserve
Business is fast and complex, even managers are having a difficult time to keep up.
So it’s a vicious cycle, but invest in yourself. Very important, because the day your job is abolished, you will be marketable.
12 managers in 15 years, that’s an achievement on its own.
Hang in there.