Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

California doesn’t have automotive talent, bunch of coders making big money cracking tough coding interviews and then they move all, it’s a fancy hub for OEMs that’s all

@1ac that sounds like the life of a manager. Just be logged in and have no measurable output.

I know I was working my butt off when I was working from home, including late nights and weekends.

I have deadlines and other measures so my boss knows what I'm actually getting done. Just being logged in wouldn't cut it for me.

I don't give them extra time anymore, so I don't know if RTO was a win for the company. But your fellow managers feel good about it, so that's what's important.

@qh we get sc--wed after 1 poor performance review before we’re on notice, my previous manager had multiple MY and YE reviews in a row that we gave him bad reviews, still going strong like nothing happened. He changes for a week, then back to the abuse of the group. We reported him… they went with the “let’s give him a second chance option”, when really he’s already on his 5th or 6th chance lol. Reached out to his previous team members and it’s just his petty personality. That’s all to say, yes, managers can get away with a ton and still be immune whereas we’re 2 reviews in a row from gone.

@fq So I’ve looked at the LinkedIn’s of some cruise people we used to work with, quite a few are at different companies now coinciding with the time the cruise layoffs were announced after absorption. On the robotaxi part, they’re no longer in public use as far as I know, but around mpg, you still see the a110’s driving around, which I assume they’re using for super cruise development. The previous GM av people and absorbed cruise people, (we had inside GM cruise people and outside GM cruise cruise people), got moved to better developing super cruise as a feature on regular vehicles. I know my old department as I was moving out also added a new 8th or 9th(?) level that was heading initiatives for the group that does just AV work.

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Thanks Captain O

Managers may not be safe forever, but they'll be the last to go.

Worker bees will go first.

That would be a good solution if there were more manager positions.

If 10 percent of employees are managers, what do the other 90 percent do?

No manager slots to move into.

And even if there were, if 100 percent of the employees were managers, who would do the work? Maybe that'll be the answer for humans when AI and robots do all the work.

But then they'd need a lot fewer managers because the robots wouldn't need reviews and stack rankings.

So if being a manager makes people immune to accountability and termination, the answer is to become a manager. Thanks everyone!

Management also likes reorgs when things go wrong so it looks like they're doing something even though it never helps.

Just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

They fire average employees when things go wrong so Wall Street thinks they're "doing something," even if it won't help.

Who is going to "shake up" management?

Is the SLT going to fire themselves?

Managers at all levels are never accountable. They never blame themselves or their decisions, the problem must be the worker bees. They make too much money and don't work hard enough to make the manager's fantasies a reality.

When our big projects start to fail in an obvious way, I believe there will be a big shakeup in management. We will finally see many of these people get 'canceled and replaced'.
The EV program and SDV are prime failure points. How long will it take? IDK. But firing normies at the bottom won't fix the problems and they know it.

When companies fail, it's usually bad leadership making poor decisions, not the average employee.

But the average employee always pays the price.

Californian coders and engineers failed hard, causing embarrassment and the loss of billions but they are also the in new direction for software and services?
Can anyone make it make sense?

That's what I thought too. Since there are no more Cruise robotaxis, what have they been doing for the last year?

Are there any cruise employees left, or are they all gone now?

I thought cruise has been shut down a while ago. They still have employees?